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RE: Re: 722 vs PMD670

Subject: RE: Re: 722 vs PMD670
From: "Martyn Stewart" <>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:13:05 -0700
<<And there's a lot more variation from mic to mic than I see with the
mkh's. Moisture-wise,  I have one NT1-A that seems to be moisture problem
prone but three others that can sit in the rain and 100% humidity and be
just as happy as my mkh's. On a couple of nights, my mkh 30 went to fizzin
and the the NT1A's made it through fine.  Rob D.>>>


OK, Gotcha!! Are they bulky, what do you use for wind protection?

Martyn

Martyn Stewart
Bird and Animal Sounds Digitally Recorded at:
http://www.naturesound.org

N47.65543   W121.98428
Redmond. Washington. USA
Make every Garden a wildlife Habitat!

425-898-0462

-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of Rob Danielson
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:06 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] Re: 722 vs PMD670

At 8:37 PM -0700 6/20/05, Martyn Stewart wrote:
>In places were I have just been to, Alaska and Big Bend Texas, I took
>readings quieter than I have done for years, 10-20db and recorded with 2 x
>mkh-20's and my 722, I can not hear any noise from the mics or the pre-amp
>even when I jack up the gain.

If your browser can negotiate the yahoo interface, you can evaluate
some of the differences here for yourself:

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/403419bb_d5a/bc/Tests/MidToLowNoiseMicsPres.mov=
.
mov?BC3I5tCBBgYvtiQ6

(the folder with the movies IS set to public regardless of what some
of the possible prompts say)

>
>I know if I take the MKH,s to places like Belize or Costa Rica, I am never
>going to worry about performance in 100% humid environments either. So as
>far as cost goes, what price do you put on reliability?

And there's a lot more variation from mic to mic than I see with the
mkh's. Moisture-wise,  I have one NT1-A that seems to be moisture
problem prone but three others that can sit in the rain and 100%
humidity and be just as happy as my mkh's. On a couple of nights, my
mkh 30 went to fizzin and the the NT1A's made it through fine.  Rob D.

>
>Martyn
>
>Martyn Stewart
>Bird and Animal Sounds Digitally Recorded at:
>http://www.naturesound.org
>
>N47.65543   W121.98428
>Redmond. Washington. USA
>Make every Garden a wildlife Habitat!
>
>425-898-0462
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: 
> On Behalf Of Rich Peet
>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:19 PM
>To: 
>Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: 722 vs PMD670
>
>I can not speak to the reliability or humidity or temp response of
>Rhode mic. But for signal to noise it beats the mkh line.
>
>I had never heard a system where I set the headphone level at the
>actual outdoor level in a very quiet place and hear no mic noise at
>all.  Then kick up the volume more and have the mics still hold
>together.
>
>I like the mkh line but with them taking the gold out I really am not
>sure that we are still getting what we pay for.
>
>Rich
>
>--- In  "Martyn Stewart"
><> wrote:
>>  <<<<Now we as a group have to talk Rhode into an Omni version of
>the NT-1a
>>  as it clearly is outperforming the mkh line at a lot less
>money.>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>  Talk to them all you like but I can not see that it outperforms the
>MKH
>>  line?
>>  Give me the MKH mics any day for performance and reliability over
>most mics
>>  but if you are talking price you get what you pay for...
>>  I would take a Sennheiser anywhere and know it will perform from
>humidity to
>>  dry deserts.....
>>
>>  Martyn
>>
>>  Martyn Stewart
>>  Bird and Animal Sounds Digitally Recorded at:
>>  http://www.naturesound.org
>>
>>  N47.65543   W121.98428
>>  Redmond. Washington. USA
>>  Make every Garden a wildlife Habitat!
>>
>>  425-898-0462
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: 
>>   On Behalf Of Rich Peet
>>  Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:59 PM
>>  To: 
>>  Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: 722 vs PMD670
>>
>>  Having heard the results of Robs current field setup compared to
>mine.
>>   Well, I ran home and went to work for more than a week trying to
>>  catch up.
>>
>>  Now we as a group have to talk Rhode into an Omni version of the NT-
>1a
>>  as it clearly is outperforming the mkh line at a lot less money.
>>
>>  And the 744? Well, it is clearly outperforming at a lot more money.
>>  Rich
>>
>>  --- In  Rob Danielson <>
>wrote:
>>  ...
>>   I've resorted to judging performance in terms of
>>  > specific combinations of mics and pres. Some combinations work
>better
>>  > than one might expect, others much worse than the specs predict.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  "Microphones are not ears,
>>  Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>  A listening room is not nature."
>>  Klas Strandberg
>>  Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Rob Danielson
Film Department
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee

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"Microphones are not ears,
Loudspeakers are not birds,
A listening room is not nature."
Klas Strandberg
Yahoo! Groups Links










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