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RE: Bare witness

Subject: RE: Bare witness
From: "Martyn Stewart" <>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:11:22 -0700
The amount of work I do as an environmentalist takes up half of my time, I
love this planet more than my fellow man, I love the animals, plants and the
very thing that keeps me alive. I detest man to the hilt when it comes to
management of this earth, in fact, if I became terminally ill, I would
personally go out and shoot as many hunters as I could muster up, I could go
on forever but as acting moderator, I have been asked in the past to keep
this group on the track of nature recording, I usually think that topics
like this fizzle out and then we start talking about bloody attract and
pre-amps. But sometimes, you can see the friction between certain postings
then you have to step in and take away the ball :)

Talking of recording in soundscapes, how about this?
pac kage-hunt.rm>>>>

This disgusts me to the hilt.........

Let's not fall out gentlemen :)


Martyn Stewart
Bird and Animal Sounds Digitally Recorded at:

N47.65543   W121.98428
Redmond. Washington. USA
Make every Garden a wildlife Habitat!


-----Original Message-----
 On Behalf Of Wild Sanctuary
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: [Nature Recordists] Bare witness

Silence on advocacy issues that preserves habitat so these lovely 
sounds can be heard is antithetical to everything each of us is 
trying to do.

It's very much to the point and needs to be embraced at every level 
and opportunity. No one should be muzzled on the issue or restrained 
from making their feelings, impressions, and/or observations known 
within this group or any other, for that matter, particularly where 
the comments are pro-active and helpful.

Speak up if you feel that what's happening to the natural soundscape 
is a major issue! Keep silent if you feel that things are just 
hunky-dorey. Your choice. Meanwhile, keep collecting those sounds 
while there's still a chirp or growl left on this earth.

When I first began recording in 1968, fully 45% of our old growth 
forests were left standing in N. America. As of this writing, less 
than 2% remains. My archive consists of over 3500 hrs of soundscape 
material collected from around the world. Over 35% of my N. American 
collection comes from habitats where the soundscape is so compromised 
as to be unrecognizable. That's in 37 years, folks!  Let's all be 
real quiet about this, eh?

Bernie Krause

>Walt, that is not what I took as limited by Martyn at all.
>Use and Venue of recordings has always been a valid topic of
>discussion within this group.
>If my use of recorded natural sounds is part of an "environmentalist
>capaign", that is a valid topic of discussion here. Further, if I wish
>to encourage or promote the use of natural sounds for "environmental
>capaigns" that too is a valid topic.
>I will just assume you are wrong unless I am corrected.
>--- In  Walter Knapp <>
>>  From: "Martyn Stewart" <>
>>  >
>>  > As much as this is very close to my heart, I think we should quit this
>>  > thread, you know me, I could talk about this forever but I think
>this is the
>>  > wrong place to do so.
>>  So ordered, and I agree, environmentalist campaigns are
>inappropriate here.
>>  Walt
>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links

Wild Sanctuary
P. O. Box 536
Glen Ellen, CA 95442
t. 707-996-6677
f. 707-996-0280

"Microphones are not ears,
Loudspeakers are not birds,
A listening room is not nature."
Klas Strandberg 
Yahoo! Groups Links



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