And a friend of mine is really fond of 1970th band-microphones. Connects
them to a MD though, with all it takes of phantom power mic preamps.
Klas.
At 18:15 2005-06-13, you wrote:
>Recording is all about illusion, Klas. And on
>that score, chacun =E1 son gout. When listening to
>natural soundscapes it just seems to me that the
>last thing one would want to do is tether oneself
>to more technology (headphones). That's why MS is
>the first choice for creating illusions of
>spatial material for the film industry and for my
>stuff (because the final stage output will
>typically be an array of speakers - two or more).
>But because I happen to like it has absolutely no
>bearing on what pleases other folks. There's a
>whole range of options that work. I just met a
>fellow last week who's into wire recording and
>uses a version of Vladmir Poulsen's 1899
>invention. Really cool and not bad signal. But
>god, that thing is heavy - abt 35Kg (77 lbs).
>
>Bernie
>
> >You could be right, what I have heard as long as I can remember is that =
MS
> >gave a true monosignal to mono Tv sets - still stereo to the ones with
> >stereo - and that that was the whole point with it. Then it is another
> >thing that you sometimes happen to like the kind of stereo you get. I'm =
not
> >very happy with MS. When I listen to it, regardless of how - headphones =
or
> >speakers - I get no feeling for the ambience. I'm not "there" as with
> >Blumline, for speakers / and binaural, for headphones.
> >
> >Klas.
> >
> >
> >At 16:32 2005-06-13, you wrote:
> >>Hmmmm... Not according to the folks at Sennheiser, who were
> >>instrumental in developing the MS technology, Klas. It was designed
> >>in the late 70s to compensate for the -3dB drop in the phantom center
> >>of XY stereo recordings and certainly not for "perfect mono." The
> >>folks in the TV medium have just recently got into MS because they
> >>now have to work in stereo formats. MS is used almost exclusively in
> >>film, now, particularly since the fellas and gals at Skywalker Sound
> >>(LucasFilm) do a lot to set the industry standards in location
> >>recording.
> >>
> >>Bernie
> >>
> >> >b.t.w - why not get another CAD179 and try Blumline - two crossed
> eights!
> >> >
> >> >It doesn't work when you have wind in the trees or when you have man=
y
> >> >reflections, but in a silent and "dry" ambience it is - in my
> opinion - the
> >> >by far best stereo set-up for naturesound. Remember that MS was desi=
gned
> >> >once for television on-location recordings with it's only real
> purpose to
> >> >get a perfect mono channel.
> >> >
> >> >Klas.
> >> >
> >> >At 13:32 2005-06-13, you wrote:
> >> >>Personally I like naturesound MS recordings
> >>made with an eight and an omni.
> >> >>It sounds "spacier" as you get more ambience.
> >> >>You can use a MKH70, but you must expect a quite "dry" recording. I=
> think
> >> >>it will work best when you are quite near the bird, say a few
> meters, when
> >> >>you don't expect so much ambience anyway. When the bird sounds "far=
> away"
> >> >>and the "natural" would be some ambience, such a recording will sou=
nd
> >> >>strange. At least to my ears.
> >> >>
> >> >>Klas.
> >> >>
> >> >>At 03:18 2005-06-13, you wrote:
> >> >> >I have access to a Sennheiser MKH70 and own a CAD M179. I think=
the
> >> >> >179 would work as the S part of a MS stereo setup (when set to t=
he
> >> >> >Figure 8 option), but am unsure of the MKH70 as the M part. I h=
ave
> >> >> >seen discussion here about the MKH60 and MKH40 used as the mid o=
n MS
> >> >> >stereo. Is the MKH70 too "focused" for such an application? Do=
es
> >> >> >anyone have any thoughts on whether such a combination would be
> >> >> >usable?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Microphones are not ears,
> >> >> >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >> >> >A listening room is not nature."
> >> >> >Klas Strandberg
> >> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> >> >>S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> >> >>Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> >> >>email:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>"Microphones are not ears,
> >> >>Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >> >>A listening room is not nature."
> >> >>Klas Strandberg
> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> > > >S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> >> >Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> >> >email:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Microphones are not ears,
> >> >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >> >A listening room is not nature."
> >> >Klas Strandberg
> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Wild Sanctuary
> >>P. O. Box 536
> >>Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> >>t. 707-996-6677
> >>f. 707-996-0280
> >>http://www.wildsanctuary.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Microphones are not ears,
> >>Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >>A listening room is not nature."
> >>Klas Strandberg
> >>Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> >S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> >Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> >email:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Microphones are not ears,
> >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >A listening room is not nature."
> >Klas Strandberg
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>--
>Wild Sanctuary
>P. O. Box 536
>Glen Ellen, CA 95442
>t. 707-996-6677
>f. 707-996-0280
>http://www.wildsanctuary.com
>
>
>
>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
email:
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