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Re: Recording Lake Ice Sounds?

Subject: Re: Recording Lake Ice Sounds?
From: Rob Danielson <>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:50:36 -0600
Have you ever heard booms going through the temperature change after 
sunset? Might be more likely a time that my night class can explore. 
Rob D.

>Your comments sound right.  I would suggest a further theory as well.
>As you recall ice expands as it gets colder and contracts as it warms
>which is reverse of most things.
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>The extreme first cold causes the ice to build fast over a body of
>water that is actually still above freezing as an average.  As it
>builds fast many crashes can be heard.  The next day when the sun
>warms the ice sheet in these cold temps the bottom of the sheet
>contracts first causing the pings or star wars like sounds.  There
>are also crashes that occur during this time as well.
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>The crashes I suspect are the shifts and cracks starting at the top
>of the ice sheet or through the entire sheet and they go well above
>2,500 cycles. The more interesting pings are the contraction cracks
>originating from only the bottom side of the sheet and are mainly
>below 600 cycles.
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>I suspect the more extreme the temperature of the ice to the water
>the more the activity will be as the sun warms the sheet the next
>day.  This would explain why it is best only on one day and why it
>isn't great every year.
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>A very small, short ping download
>http://home.comcast.net/~richpeet/ice.mp3
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>Rich
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>The conditions you
>>  describe Rich are very consistent with the day I
>>  encountered them. Larger, deep lake, clear day,
>>  clear ice, steady radiation and by early
>>  afternoon some surface cracks forming. Separate
>>  from these surface cracks were spatially
>>  dispersed, harmonic "pings" that ricocheted and
>>  tended to cluster around intervals about 5-20
>>  minutes apart.  My wild guess is the unusual
>>  sonic qualities come from floating surface layer
>>  of ice reacting very much like a speaker membrane
>>  or drumhead to concussions either from direct ice
>>  strikes or fairly large fractures in deeper
>>  layers of ice. ...
>>  Milwaukee. Rob D.
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>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
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Rob Danielson
Film Department
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee


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