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RE: Ecuador Audio Publications

Subject: RE: Ecuador Audio Publications
From: "Barb Beck" <>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:52:20 -0700
I listen to CDs on my home system and Cd players in the car.  I do not
travel with a puter - hey that is my one time to get away from the blasted
things.  I think currently the CD format would be much better accepted by
the public in general. I would prefer it on CD.  Heck I still have people
requesting tapes because they do not use a CD!

Old Grannie Barb Beck
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada where we are looking at a low of -14 tonight when
we start owling for the CBC at 12:01 AM.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Minns 
Sent: December 13, 2003 1:17 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Ecuador Audio Publications

John,

I'll first declare my interest. I am presently working with four co-authors
on a DVD-ROM of the Birds of Brazil, in Sjoerd's series.

I personally find the CD/DVD-ROM format more convenient than audio CDs. My
reason is that I work on my computer constantly and find it quicker to
retrieve a file using Cool Edit than to put an audio CD in the computer,
wait till it starts up and then listen to a track. What's more, with the
recording as a file on the computer, I'm looking at the sonogram as I
listen. As a result of my preference for the computer the bird CDs that I
use most have all been 'ripped' to my computer's hard disc.

I never listen to audio CDs of bird song on my home audio system or in the
car but I'm sure there are many people who do and they would obviously
prefer audio CDs to a CD/DVD-ROM. I have heard that there are birders who
use CD players in the field for playback but they are probably few and I
doubt whether they would carry a full set of your CDs in the field; they
would probably burn a CD with a selection of cuts which they could get from
audio CDs or from a CD/DVD-ROM.

I suspect many of the people on this list would agree with me as, by nature
of their membership, they are computer orientated people, not computer shy.
But are they representative of the people who buy your CDs?

Although I have never been to Ecuador, I have one of your sets of CDs and
congratulate you on a great piece of work.

Jeremy

  At 14:05 13/12/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Dear Group Members,
>
>I am hoping to get some advice from as many as possible concerning my
>publications of Ecuador bird vocalizations. As many of you know, we (
>first just me
>,with much help from others, but later with other co-authors) have for the
>past
>several years published a series of first cassette and later CD
publications
>featuring bird vocalizations from various life zones in Ecuador. We have
>published 4 cassettes on the Eastern Lowlands, 2 CD sets on the NW, 1 CD
>set on the
>Highlands, a 2 cassette set on the Eastern Subtropics, and will be
publishing
>w/in 30 days a 5 CD set on the SW. What we have left to do is the Eastern
>Foothills and an expanded CD set for the Eastern Lowlands. Many people have
>contributed to these publications.
>
>Also, as most of you know, Niels Krabbe has now published a comprehensive
DVD
>featuring birds songs and calls of Ecuador in association with Sjoerd Mayer
>in the same format as Sjoerd's Bolivia, Venezuela, and Tropical Asia
>publications. Niels has been a contributor and co-author on many of  my
>publications and
>I have happily contributed to his publication. We are friends, not
>competitors. My question to those of you familiar with our publications
>and the
>Neotropics is:
>
>Should John V. Moore Nature Recordings continue to publish Ecuador Regional
>publications in CD format or is the DVD format Sjoerd and Niels are using
>sufficient to make available these vocalizations to the entire range of
>birders?
>
>The alternative to continuing with the CD publications would be to
>immediately concentrate on making Niels DVD 100% complete in all areas.
>This is not to
>imply that Niels DVD is not incredibly good..it is. The other co-authors
>and I
>have hundreds of hours of recordings that could augment Niels DVD, but it
is
>already a truly magnificent work. So, once again, the question is, is there
a
>need for publications in a CD format in addition to the DVD format? And,
>if so,
>how great is the need?
>
>You can either reply to me directly or to the group if you think a
discussion
>is warranted.
>
>Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>John
>
>John V. Moore Nature Recordings
>
>
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