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Re: Sony MZ-R501???

Subject: Re: Sony MZ-R501???
From: Dan Dugan <>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:32:49 -0800
Klas wrote,

>  >What do I mean Plug In Power?? It is a mini phantom-power giving DC to the
>  >microphones.

And Wayne responded,

>That's what I thought you might be asking, but I wanted to make sure. I
>know of any portable MiniDisc recorder (other than HHB's, which is much
>larger) that provides phantom power. This is true of a lot of the
>portable DAT recorders as well. As a general rule of thumb, if it doesn't
>have XLR connectors, it probably doesn't provide phantom power. The
>recorders still might provide some sort of bias voltage, but I typically
>think of phantom power as 48 VDC (Although a lot of microphones can work
>on a range of voltage other than 48 volts).

You didn't understand what Klas meant when he said "mini 
phantom-power." "Plug in power" is a system that I believe Sony 
invented in the early 70s, and is now pretty much ubiquitous in 
mini-stereo mic inputs. The input supplies a couple of volts to bias 
the FET impedance converter in an electret mic capsule. It's just for 
the FET, it isn't used to polarize the capsule, which is permanently 
polarized in an electret mic. So it's -like- phantom power, in that 
the mic inputs feeds power to the mic, but it -isn't- phantom power. 
Pro mikes need XLR connectors and real phantom power. Consumer 
electret mikes without batteries are designed to work with plug in 
power. Two different species.

While I'm on the subject, there's also T power or A-B power, the 
first through-the-XLR condensor mic powering system, invented in the 
60s. There are a lot of T-power Schoeps mics still in use, and some 
Sennheisers, too, but manufacturing of that type stopped soon after 
phantom power caught on. T-power is not compatible with phantom power 
or plug in power, it's yet another species. You'll see T power as a 
selection on equipment made for the motion picture industry, like 
Cooper and SQN mixers.

-Dan Dugan


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