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RE: Re:Dawn Chorus recordings

Subject: RE: Re:Dawn Chorus recordings
From: "Chris Owens" <>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:52:09 +0100
I agree with Klas. There is something special about a "snapshot in
time". You get what you get!

Chris.

-----Original Message-----
From: Klas Strandberg 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:25 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re:Dawn Chorus recordings


I don't agree that one could use any recording made under 2003. That is
a very different thing.

The challenge is to have a day, a time, a topic - and then make the best
of it, using all your skills and creativity!

Last Sept 1, I had three options: fox puppets playing around, a common
tit making some "chirp" and the heavy rain outside my window with a fly
passing by.

I took the rain and fly recording, as it was the most typical for the
day. Rain. It was a 10 sec picture of Sweden Sept 1.

On top of that I think it has a special, poetical value that all
recordings are made at the same time, all over the globe! That was your
original idea and I definitelly think we should stick to it.

Presenting a number of recordings made under 2003 becomes very similar
to any ordinary sound recording competition and will trigger very
different emotions than the original project, both within ourselves and
the listener.

Come on, people - If I want to hear animal sounds I just switch on
Animal Channel! There is an inflation in animal sounds.

But the poetical value of Vicky's original idea doesn't exist anywhere
else than on this list. It's unique.

Klas.



At 14:50 2003-07-03 +1000, you wrote:
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>I agree with Rich that "a chorus from anytime within the year 2003"
>might attract more participation.  I'd be happy to submit something
>from eastern Australia.  But a three minute recording is too big for me

>to send even as mp3, and certainly the thought of downloading a whole
>batch of really long recordings from others would send my feeble
>internet connection into hysterics.
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>What are people's thoughts on turning the 3 minute sequences into a CD
>(or two or three?)  Maybe we could have short extracts on a web site
>and a longer version on CD?  Those people with slow connections could
>simply snail-mail their contribution to the compiler.  I'd love to hear

>sample recordings from naturerecordist members around the world,
>everything from an "all-day-dawn" recording from Barb, to
>frogs-at-night from Walt, and everything in between.  (No strict rule
>on "dawn" obviously).
>
>Our summer here (January-Feb) was so drought stricken that not even any

>insects were making sound, let alone birds.  The air was depressingly
>silent and full of dust and heat and smoke from wildfires.  It is
>winter here now, and quite cold.  Hopefully spring will see some decent

>rainfall and a return to more normal weather patterns, and some
>birdsong!
>
>Vicki Powys
>Australia
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>on 3/7/03 5:33 AM, Rich Peet at  wrote:
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>> I will always resist RealAudio.  To say that I hate the product and
>> company policies is an understatement.  If it is in RealAudio I will
>> never be able to listen to it.
>>
>> Since dawn chorus or any full chorus is such a hard event for most,
>> maybe the best way is to open it up for a 3 min. submission of chorus

>> from anytime within the year 2003.  We might increase participation
>> that way and be able to accomodate both hemispheres.
>>
>> I would like to see more than 20 submissions at about 3 mins. each. I

>> could host it in both wave and mp3 and still come in under 4 gigs. I
>> don't write html well like greg though.  I'm sure my sponsor for
>> non-commercial natural sound can handle that space on its fast
>> server.  Maybe you want me to provide space to link to from somewhere

>> else.
>>
>> --- In  "Ranft, Richard"
>> <> wrote:
>>> Dominique raised the issue of hosting Dawn Chorus 2003 recordings:
>>>
>>>>> For those who are less fortunate in terms of server space, it
>> should be
>>> fairly simple to find a web
>>>>> site or a ftp site in an educational organization that could lend
>> us the
>>> space for a while...
>>>
>>> I would be interested in principle in hosting the sounds (and
>> archiving and
>>> labelling etc them) on the British Library site.  We have the
>> server space,
>>> audio editors, encoders etc.  The main proviso is that the sounds
>> would be
>>> converted to RealAudio format, which some of you might say is not
>> your
>>> favourite audio file type...  The advantage however is that I can
>> host the
>>> longer recordings you are interested in, and the listener who has
>> the free
>>> RealAudio player and plugins can hear the sounds right away without
>> waiting
>>> for downloads.  I can accept files in most audio formats (even wax
>> cylinder,
>>> wire, if you wish!) and do the conversion here.  What do others
>> think?
>>>
>>> Richard Ranft=20=20
>>> Curator, Wildlife Section,
>>> The British Library Sound Archive,
>>> 96 Euston Road,
>>> London NWI 2DB, UK.
>>> email: 
>>> WWW pages with fully-searchable on-line catalogue at:
>>> http://www.bl.uk/soundarchive
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Laloux, Dominique 
>>>> Sent: 02 July 2003 19:49
>>>> To: 
>>>> Subject: [Nature Recordists] Apologies for silence
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I must apologize to Klas, Chris, Martyn, Greg, and anyone else who
>>>> replied to my suggestion to run another Dawn Chorus Day this
>>>> year... I lost contact
>>>> with the group either on Friday or sometime at the weekend.
>>>> It looks like
>>>> messages have been refused by my mail server and I was simply
>>>> removed from
>>>> the list by the Yahoo server.
>>>>
>>>> Doug tells me that perhaps that was due to a change in an email
>>>> filter that was done last week at the office. I just switched to
>>>> another email address.
>>>>
>>>> I am still very much interested in the idea of another Dawn Chorus
>>>> Day.
>>>>
>>>> I'll jot down a few ideas in a new thread...
>>>>
>>>> Dominique Laloux
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