I have just checked Denon's UK website, and it states there that the
maximum card size for the F20R is 192MB, so there appears to be very
conflicting information going on here.
Best Wishes
Matt
Matt Jarvis
Product Marketing Manager
Marantz Professional Europe
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"oryoki2000" <>
2002-07-29 19:51
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Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: Marantz PMD680 and Denon F20R
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matt.jarvis wrote:
>...the Denon Flash Card recorder accepts
>a maximum card size of 120mb...
Not true: The Denon F20R recorder officially accepts two
compactflash memory cards with capacity up to 512MB each.
For an up-to-date description, see the manufacturer's web page at
http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/products.asp?l=3&c=47
Denon and Marantz take different approaches to data storage in their
field recorders.
Marantz offers one Type 2 PCMCIA memory slot, which is capable of
utilizing either solid-state memory in a PC Card adapter, or a tiny
hard disc packaged in PCMCIA form, such as the IBM MicroDrive (1GB
capacity) or Kingston Datapak (2GB). According to Matt Jarvis, we
may see hard discs with even greater capacity in Marantz's field
recorders next year. Toshiba has advanced hard disc packaging
technology to the point where 10GB and 20GB discs fit in the Type 2
PCMCIA form factor. These are the discs used in portable music
players like Apple's new iPod models.
Rather than use the larger PCMCIA form factor, Denon chose to store
data on the physically smaller CompactFlash Type 1 solid state memory
card. Today, CompactFlash Type 1 cards are available in up to 1GB
capacity, although the Denon people have not yet approved cards
bigger than 512MB. The Denon F20R has slots for two CompactFlash
cards, and the recorder has an interesting facility to switch
recording to the second card when the first is filled up. The cards
are hot-swappable, so (theoretically at least) you could continue
recording indefinitely by adding fresh cards as needed. Denon's use
of a smaller recording medium translates into a package measuring
8x6x2 inches and 35 oz. Marantz PMD 680 measures 10x7x2 inches, 47
oz, which is about the same size as a Marantz cassette tape
recorder. The HHb Portadisc also measures 10x7x2, and weighs 71 oz.
Compared to CompactFlash, tiny hard discs have three disadvantages in
field use. First, they are 10 times more vulnerable to shock while
in operation (200G vs 2000G); second, they use battery power faster;
and third, manufacturers recommend that the discs be used only below
10,000 ft elevation. CompactFlash's major disadvantage is cost: a
512MB memory card costs $250 - $300 each, about the same price as a
1GB IBM MicroDrive. Market forces make the 256MB card the best deal
at around $100.
Right about now, folks who use minidisc recorders are thinking, "I
could buy a lifetime supply of mds for $300." Remember that the
CompactFlash and MicroDrive units are not intended to provide
archival storage, just data capture. The sounds recorded with these
systems are transferred to a computer and written to CD or DVD for
archiving. The flash memory or disc memory units are erased and re-
used.
So if you're getting started with recording on a tight budget, choose
a Sony or Sharp consumer minidisc recorder. And if you're traveling
across Asia by bus for a month, use minidiscs as your archive medium
and transfer your recordings to a computer when you get back. For
the rest of us looking for a recorder with pro features at a
reasonable cost, the Marantz PMD 680 and Denon F20R provide good
alternatives to the HHb Portadisc.
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