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Re: Marantz PMD222 XLR Noise Problem

Subject: Re: Marantz PMD222 XLR Noise Problem
From: Klas Strandberg <>
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 15:56:02 +0200
Thanks Adam. It is a good example of how a wish to simplify and make cheaper
go far off what is technically acceptable.

Klas.

 At 06:09 2002-07-09 -0000, you wrote:
>--- In  Klas Strandberg <> wrote:
>> What causes the noise??
>> 
>> Klas.
>
>A 741 class op-amp, incorrect input impedance (for professional 
>mics), and the balanced mic input stage being operated with no gain! 
>When I mod it, I put in an AD OP275 op-amp, reduce the input 
>impedance, give it plenty of gain, and run it to the level control. 
>Plus put in caps that won't blow up if you attach a 48 volt supply 
>that doesn't have its own blocking caps. What Marantz did is operate 
>the XLR input stage with no gain so that they could run it through 
>the filter and pad switches and then into the unbalanced mic pre! 
>Crazy design in my opinion! Even after improving the circuit, the NF 
>is still about 12dB due to limitations in the circuitry in the rest 
>of the machine (for those who don't know, a good professional mic pre 
>typically has a Noise Factor [or added noise] of 1dB or less).
>
>- Adam Liberman
>Liberman Sound
>www.libermansound.com
>
>
>> 
>> >
>> >We service many Marantz recorders, and all the PMD222's that we 
>have seen 
>> >suffer from excessive noise on the XLR input. We offer an upgrade 
>for those 
>> >who are interested that reduces the noise by 10db (down to the 
>level of the 
>> >mini-jack input).
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Adam Liberman
>> >Liberman Sound
>> >www.libermansound.com
>> >
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>> Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
>> S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
>> Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
>> email: 
>>        
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>From   Tue Mar  8 18:22:32 2005
Message: 17
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 06:09:05 -0000
From: "adam5532" <>
Subject: Re: Marantz PMD222 XLR Noise Problem

--- In  Klas Strandberg <> wrote:
> What causes the noise??
> 
> Klas.

A 741 class op-amp, incorrect input impedance (for professional 
mics), and the balanced mic input stage being operated with no gain! 
When I mod it, I put in an AD OP275 op-amp, reduce the input 
impedance, give it plenty of gain, and run it to the level control. 
Plus put in caps that won't blow up if you attach a 48 volt supply 
that doesn't have its own blocking caps. What Marantz did is operate 
the XLR input stage with no gain so that they could run it through 
the filter and pad switches and then into the unbalanced mic pre! 
Crazy design in my opinion! Even after improving the circuit, the NF 
is still about 12dB due to limitations in the circuitry in the rest 
of the machine (for those who don't know, a good professional mic pre 
typically has a Noise Factor [or added noise] of 1dB or less).

- Adam Liberman
Liberman Sound
www.libermansound.com


> 
> >
> >We service many Marantz recorders, and all the PMD222's that we 
have seen 
> >suffer from excessive noise on the XLR input. We offer an upgrade 
for those 
> >who are interested that reduces the noise by 10db (down to the 
level of the 
> >mini-jack input).
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Adam Liberman
> >Liberman Sound
> >www.libermansound.com
> >
> This outgoing e-mail is scanned for viruses with Norton 2002
> 
> Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> email: 
>        
> org. no SE440130067001



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