OK, here is a couple examples to look at and listen to.
This is not a hhb. This is a true consumer level Sony MZ R90 Minidisk
with a $340.00 Sennheiser ME 62 placed inside of a priceless 32"
polyC dish. No edits at all, no filters at all.
First is a Warbler and you can see the harmonics do go above 20 khz.
This was recorded at about 30'. You can also see from the noise line
the compression did cut out very low volume background noise that
you, as a person, had no chance of hearing but maybe your dog could.
Second is a Golden-crowned Kinglet recorded about 175' distant. About
the highest pitched bird in a pure tone that I have recorded. You can
see it was recorded at low volume and it is all there.
53kb
http://home.attbi.com/~richpeet/csw.JPG
227kb
http://home.attbi.com/~richpeet/csw.wav
51kb
http://home.attbi.com/~richpeet/gck.JPG
804kb
http://home.attbi.com/~richpeet/gck.wav
Compare this to the commercial copywrite recordings you may have that
I can not post on a public site.
You make your own choices. For me, I am buying a second minidisk,
consumer recorder to be able to record two sites with two different
types of setups at the same time for this spring.
--- In "claudio chea" <> wrote:
> ok let me rephrase how much sound in terms of herz can u get of a
minidisc?
> and of a dat?
>
> how much does this portadisc costs? do you have a link? would love
to take a
> look??
>
> as for good microphones for nature recording, recommendations
please?
>
> greets!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Walter Knapp
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:26 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Sony PC with audio Minidisc and
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>
> claudio chea wrote:
> >
> > i think i was reffering to professional sound work, the recording
process,
> > and how much more you can get by using good quality dat recorder
and
> > microphones....
>
> The pros are abandoning DAT in their new recorder purchases, the
ones
> doing music and film anyway. The number of available models of
portable
> field dat recorders is dwindling, and what's left does not appear
to be
> the state of the art even for DAT. DAT is more and more just a
format to
> deal with old tapes recorded with it.
>
> Do not think that using DAT is somehow more professional or even
better.
> It's just another old fashioned tape recorder. With all the
problems of
> tape reliability.
>
> And you can use any mic you can use with DAT with MD, or cassette
or any
> other recorder for that matter.
>
> The truth is DAT is used as much out of habit as for good sound
reasons
> compared to other choices.
>
> The HHb Portadisc is certainly a pro recorder if that matters. And
quite
> a few pros are buying them. I've even seen quite a few mic reviews
by
> pros where the recorder used during the mic testing was a HHb
Portadisc.
>
> And as for how much more you can get, you are talking about the
flea on
> the elephants back, the very tiny flea, if it's even there. You get
the
> elephant. It helps to keep in perspective just how tiny a difference
> something that people cannot pick out when they listen turns out to
be.
> Especially as you are ignoring the relatively huge variation even
within
> individual models of mics or recorders. To say nothing of between
> different models. Or that Pros routinely mangle the sound they do
record
> with all kinds of filtration and other processing.
>
> Walt
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