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Blitz wind up

To: Philip Veerman <>
Subject: Blitz wind up
From: Kim Farley via Canberrabirds <>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 07:23:19 +0000
Not commenting on the discussion of a new Atlas, but more in answer to Philip's query about why this is happening in our area - my observed experience is that the fires in 2003 and 2019 had a big impact on some species in Namadgi. Some areas are now much drier than previously and the loss of large older trees and their canopy has been very obvious.  
Kim


On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 4:24 PM Philip Veerman <> wrote:

Thanks Mark for the comment. I find it hard to see that climate change can be s big factor in non migratory birds, like the particular species I mentioned, although there is getting to be very good evidence that it is a big factor in problems for long-distance migrants..The idea for another new Atlas of Australian Birds is or would be, a huge task. More to the point, and on a local scale, and at very little cost, it is about time that there was an update to The GBS Report. My report covers only 1981 to 2002. This is now only half of its history and thus ridiculously superseded. There has been so much change in Canberra’s birds since then and we have almost nothing to show for it. There has been no coherent information on this excellent set of data, since then. What little there is in the Annual Bird Reports since then is an incoherent mess and very hard to use (mainly because it is by single year and no longer shows any within year variations)  and by not using consistent statistical measures. It would be so easy to do. I could do it in a few months, as I have all the systems ready to go, but not the data. There is one very big difference though. There is no way I would be generous enough to be using my own money (even if I had the funds) to publish such a report again, for COG’s benefit, as I did three times, so many years ago.

 

Philip

 

From: [mailto:m("iinet.net.au","alisonrf");" target="_blank">]
Sent: Monday, 23 October, 2023 2:44 PM
To: 'Mark Clayton'; 'Philip Veerman';
Subject: RE: [Canberrabirds] Blitz wind up

 

Hi Mark and others

 

It might be a very good time to propose to BirdLife Australia that an Atlas of Australia would be a very god idea sitting on both the Blitz and the Aussie Bird Count. I have just met with the new CEO of BLA and would be happy to raise this suggestion with her if it is felt this would be a good thing to do.

 

Regards

 

Alison

 

 

Alison Russell-French OAM

PO Box 101

Curtin  ACT  2605

M: +61 419 264 702

 

 

 

From: Canberrabirds <> On Behalf Of Mark Clayton via Canberrabirds
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 12:50 PM
To: Philip Veerman <>;
Subject: Re: [Canberrabirds] Blitz wind up

 

I know that Philip is a very good birder and for him to say that things are not good bird wise just backs up what I said in an email to Nicki this morning and have been commenting on for quite a few years now. Climate change with the two extremes in weather we have had, coupled with the excess removal of trees, both natural and planted, for the expansion of suburbia and on farmland, and the general “cleaning up” of paddocks has had a major impact on birds EVERYWHERE. I have been surveying birds both professionally and as an amateur for nearly 60 years. I think it is now time for Birdlife Australia, if it wants to continue as supposedly Australia’s premier birding organisation, to redo an “Atlas of Australia’s Birds”, I think they will get an almighty shock as to just what is happening. I can remember 30 – 40 years ago driving down country roads and seeing Willie Wagtails and Yellow-rumped Thornbills fly off the road, other Thornbill and fairy-wren species doing much the same. Now the occasional Magpie-lark, Apostlebird and a lot fewer White-winged Choughs are to be seen. There are some birds on the ACT”s Threatened Species list that I, and I know a lot of others, consider should not be on it, and a lot more that should. We are finding the same is happening with our bird banding site near West Wyalong, an area that still has a lot of native vegetation in the general area. I was surprised to find species like the Noisy Miner, Common Starling and Common Myna were in very few numbers in areas I have surveyed in previous years.

 

Be interested in hearing people’s comments.

 

Mark

 

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Sent: Monday, 23 October 2023 10:31 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [Canberrabirds] Blitz wind up

 

I did 10 sites over the 2 days, with about 95 km travel, which is the most travel I have done for birding for a very long time but probably a lot less than most other people. Even though pleasant being out, the low numbers of birds in species and individuals is getting concerning. For example at Castle Hill which in most years it has been so full it has been a struggle for just me to get to find most of what is there, yesterday I had to look pretty carefully to come up with the list I did. Though it was nice to be there. Previously it has had Hooded Robin, Brown Treecreeper, Diamond Firetail, Leaden Flycatcher, White-browed Woodswallow, none of them left (at least within the area I look at).

 

Good bits were a Tawny Frogmouth on nest with at least one chick in I think exactly the same spot on a tree as last year (or was it 2 years ago?). A pair of kestrels, male seen hunting and female seen flying around a group of trees so presumably nesting in one of them, although the tree they were nesting in 2 years ago has now fallen down. Unlike 2 years ago I was not accosted by a woman who saw me at Kambah Pool and I thought she wanted to know what I was looking at (the above mentioned Tawny Frogmouth on nest) but she saw I was standing still and rushed at me and launched a barrage of preaching Jesus at me. The car park at Kambah Pool on Saturday afternoon was totally full of cars, even along the access road.

 

Otherwise fairly ordinary.

 

Philip

 

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