"'Margaret Leggoe'" <>
Do you speak French?
"Philip Veerman" <>
Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:40:58 +1100
understand your concern. Very valid and your choice entirely. Daniel's point
about "fuelling the market" is certainly a valid issue. But I can suggest a bit
more. I assume that their interest is referring to rare species from around the
world. For many species e.g. in Asia and South America whose habitat is being
rapidly wrecked, captive breeding is a likely important lifeline (whether the
birds will ever be returned is another question). And yes there is big trade
from those places. (I have no idea as to the ratio of legal to illegal.) Many of
these birds would have been captured as their habitat is lost and thus they are
doomed anyway. No doubt the same is true with monkeys etc although more likely
that most of those are just eaten by people.
are in Australia and thus I assume they are after photos of Australian birds
from you, the issue is somewhat different. I wonder what species of bird they
were asking you about. Worth saying that the laws in Australia are much tighter
than just the provisions of CITES. And no doubt policed much better than in Asia
& South America (though some still get through). I suggest that inasmuch as
Australian birds are concerned, the vast majority of them are from long existing
captive stocks that have already been bred for many generations (or many
decades) in those countries. In most cases there is very little obtaining of new
breeding stock form wild populations in Australia. They probably think of
Eastern Rosellas and who knows how many other actually common species, as rare
(and certainly exotic).
Thank you everyone. This
is indeed an organisation devoted to the captive breeding of exotic birds.
One must ask oneself where do they get their breeding stock? Many
must ultimately go back to trade that is in clear contravention of CITES.
I am glad I did not give them any assistance, nor will I.
Sent: Friday, 10 February 2012
you speak French?
I was approached by the editor of this magazine asking for
permission to use one of my images. It so happened, fortunately, I had not
saved a RAW version of the image they requested and was unable to give/sell a
printable version. However, it seems to me this is a bunch of people
(private individuals?) who breed exotic birds in captivity, among which a number
of Australian species feature.
I would be most uncomfortable about encouraging such an
organisation, but would be glad if someone who can actually READ what they say
can tell me what they are about.
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