Do you speak French?

To: "'Margaret Leggoe'" <>
Subject: Do you speak French?
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:40:58 +1100
Hello Margaret,
I do understand your concern. Very valid and your choice entirely. Daniel's point about "fuelling the market" is certainly a valid issue. But I can suggest a bit more. I assume that their interest is referring to rare species from around the world. For many species e.g. in Asia and South America whose habitat is being rapidly wrecked, captive breeding is a likely important lifeline (whether the birds will ever be returned is another question). And yes there is big trade from those places. (I have no idea as to the ratio of legal to illegal.) Many of these birds would have been captured as their habitat is lost and thus they are doomed anyway. No doubt the same is true with monkeys etc although more likely that most of those are just eaten by people.
As you are in Australia and thus I assume they are after photos of Australian birds from you, the issue is somewhat different. I wonder what species of bird they were asking you about. Worth saying that the laws in Australia are much tighter than just the provisions of CITES. And no doubt policed much better than in Asia & South America (though some still get through). I suggest that inasmuch as Australian birds are concerned, the vast majority of them are from long existing captive stocks that have already been bred for many generations (or many decades) in those countries. In most cases there is very little obtaining of new breeding stock form wild populations in Australia. They probably think of Eastern Rosellas and who knows how many other actually common species, as rare (and certainly exotic).
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From: Margaret Leggoe [
Sent: Friday, 10 February 2012 10:47 AM
Subject: [canberrabirds] FW: Do you speak French?

Thank you everyone.  This is indeed an organisation devoted to the captive breeding of exotic birds.  One must ask oneself where do they get their breeding stock?   Many must ultimately go back to trade that is in clear contravention of CITES.  I am glad I did not give them any assistance, nor will I.



From: Margaret Leggoe [
Sent: Friday, 10 February 2012 9:45 AM
Subject: Do you speak French?


I was approached by the editor of this magazine asking for permission to use one of my images.  It so happened, fortunately, I had not saved a RAW version of the image they requested and was unable to give/sell a printable version.  However, it seems to me this is a bunch of people (private individuals?) who breed exotic birds in captivity, among which a number of Australian species feature.

I would be most uncomfortable about encouraging such an organisation, but would be glad if someone who can actually READ what they say can tell me what they are about.

Many thanks

Margaret Leggoe    

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