canberrabirds

Spotted (Turtle) Doves

To: "'Alberta Hayes'" <>
Subject: Spotted (Turtle) Doves
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:35:34 +1100
I would say never say never but attributing a reduction in water dragon population to predation on little ones by pigeons is a long stretch. It would seem hugely unlikely to be any connection there.
 
Feral pigeons are variously regarded as a pest in many places around the world. So a lot of consideration has gone into that. Encouragement of Peregrine Falcons is a help but not a control.........
 
Philip
 
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From: Alberta Hayes [
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2011 11:29 AM
To: Philip Veerman
Cc: Lia Battisson;
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Spotted (Turtle) Doves

Hi everyone,
Further to the discussion about the STDs and their growing numbers, here in the South I believe that feral pigeons are becoming increasingly common as well. I've no data to back this up, only anecdotal sightings of more and more underpasses and such nesting sites becoming used by the pigeons. 

There are two particular locations that spring to mind that demonstrate both the prevalence and the ongoing issues that feral pigeons can cause.  One is at the back end of McCulloch street in Curtin.  A couple of years ago I was very happy to see that there were a great number of water dragons along the creek near the horse paddocks. My uncle lives along McCulloch and this Christmas I suggested a walk to see the water dragons and he said that there was no point. He hadn't seen any in a while. There is a large flock of pigeons along that stretch of creek and perhaps they have been eating the little ones? The little dragons were not afraid of people, perhaps their downfall was that they were not afraid of pigeons either?

The other place I am seeing pigeons more and more is along the edge of Monash, Oxley and Greenway. A couple of years ago, the only flock around belonged to someone in Monash who keeps them as pets. I'm unsure as to whether they are homing pigeons or not, but they certainly seemed to fly around the one house. Over the last two years, the feral pigeons have been slowly going from underpass to underpass. At the same time this has been happening, there has been a sharp reduction in the number of Welcome Swallows and Martins that we see along the lake and pond.  I know of two Welcome Swallow nests that no longer are in use that are right next to pigeon flocks.

One question, is there an effective trap that we could use to rid Canberra of both STDs and Feral pigeons?  I don't think this would take away from CIMAG at all. If anything, inaction due to not wanting to step on CIMAG's toes would be much worse than taking the action needed.

Sorry for babbling a bit!
Alberta.

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