Sorry, Dimitris, but I don't think much of that photo of a female Common
Redstart, I'm afraid! I think some better ones may be found at these links:
http://www.mangoverde.com/birdsound/picpages/pic142-195-2.html
http://www.mangoverde.com/birdsound/picpages/pic142-195-1.html
http://www.pbase.com/bister/image/56685776
http://www.kazakhstanbirdtours.com/gallery3.htm
Regards
Frank
-----Original message-----
From: Dimitris Bertzeletos
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:22:32 +1100
To: canberra birds
Subject: Bird ID
>
> Hello Lindsay,
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> That's definately a female Redstart species and judging from the overall
> paleness and brown tones it's a Common Redstart
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> Female Black Redstart:
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> http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://i.pbase.com/g3/03/638903/2/57056167.SvartrdstjrtFrnbrbara9mars2006030.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pbase.com/upupa/image/57056167&usg=__oFyARRQZbIiq2jHfo9xODSLcPuw=&h=534&w=800&sz=50&hl=en&start=17&um=1&tbnid=hi2erDLW19X8gM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfemale%2Bblack%2Bredstart%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
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> http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=228571
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> Female Common Redstart:
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> http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://i1.treknature.com/photos/10943/kara_kizilkuyruk-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.treknature.com/gallery/photo185832.htm&usg=__0Fyt7BT67rV4KA1_i68QwoLz2Ao=&h=596&w=790&sz=85&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=UiKgVlJDwcxg6M:&tbnh=108&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfemale%2Bcommon%2Bredstart%26hl%3Den%26um%3D1
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> http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=212191
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> And for comparisons sake: Common Nightingale
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> http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=193776
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> Note, that apart from structure, no black in tale, darker brown above,
> stronger bill etc
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> Cheers and good birding!
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>
> Dimitris
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>
> From:
> To:
> Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Bird ID
> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:43:40 +1100
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> Dimitris
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> Photo enclosed
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> Lindsay
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> From: Dimitris Bertzeletos
> Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 8:26 PM
> To: canberra birds
> Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Bird ID
>
> Redstarts behave fairly similar to Leaden/Satin Flycatchers. They generally
> don't perch on the ground and are somewhat stocky and long-tailed (Black
> Redstart will use buildings though). Wheatears are more thrush like in
> appearance, longer legged and stockier with moderately long tails. They spend
> most of their time on the ground.
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> On passage, however, you can get birds outside their normal habitat so
> anything is possible.
>
> If Lindsay could send me the photo(s) I could have a look at them (never
> recieved them via the mailing) list.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Dimitris
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>
>
> From:
> To: ; ; ;
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> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:39:24 +1100
> Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Bird ID
>
> The choices I have come up with are based on the closest field guide I have
> to the area Birds of the Middle East by Porter, Christensen and
> Schiermacker-Hansen. They are, in no particular order, females of Hooded
> Wheatear, Common Redstart, and Black Redstart. All occur very roughly in the
> area north or east of Egypt. Interestingly Porter et al, on one of their
> Redstart/ Blackstart plates also show a bird in found (I think) in more
> southern parts of Africa, the Familiar Chat. Lindsay?s photo looks very
> similar to this species. In the book it is listed as ?vagrant Yemen. Range
> Africa?
>
> Best I can do I?m afraid
>
> Mark
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> From: Paul Mahoney
> Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 5:42 PM
> To: ; ;
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> Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Bird ID
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> Redstart was my first guess too, but not a Common Redstart - not found in (or
> near) Egypt. Only Redstart in Egypt is a Black Redstart, and this bird is
> too pale even for a female.
>
> Thinking possibly female Hooded Wheatear, but habitat (judging from photo) is
> not right.
>
> Paul
>
> > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:31:18 +1100
> > From:
> > To: ;
> > Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Bird ID
> >
> > I don't have any reference books with me, but probably a Redstart of some
> > sort - possibly a female Common Redstart, but I don't know whether they
> > occur in Egypt.
> >
> > Regards
> > Frank Antram
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: "Lindsay Hansch"
> > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:46:09 +1100
> > To: "COG-L"
> > Subject: [canberrabirds] Bird ID
> >
> > > Can anyone help me with an ID of the enclosed bird please? The photo was
> > > taken at Alexandria, Egypt. Characteristically, it was acting like a
> > > flycatcher. And is about the same size as a Leaden/Satin Flycatcher. The
> > > main visible feature was the prominent rufous rump.
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> > > Regards
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> > > Lindsay Hansch
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