Bird ID

[Dimitris Bertzeletos <>]

Hello Lindsay,
 
That's definately a female Redstart species and judging from the overall paleness and brown tones it's a Common Redstart
 
Female Black Redstart:
 
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://i.pbase.com/g3/03/638903/2/57056167.SvartrdstjrtFrnbrbara9mars2006030.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pbase.com/upupa/image/57056167&usg=__oFyARRQZbIiq2jHfo9xODSLcPuw=&h=534&w=800&sz=50&hl=en&start=17&um=1&tbnid=hi2erDLW19X8gM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfemale%2Bblack%2Bredstart%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
 
http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=228571
 
Female Common Redstart:

http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://i1.treknature.com/photos/10943/kara_kizilkuyruk-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.treknature.com/gallery/photo185832.htm&usg=__0Fyt7BT67rV4KA1_i68QwoLz2Ao=&h=596&w=790&sz=85&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=UiKgVlJDwcxg6M:&tbnh=108&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfemale%2Bcommon%2Bredstart%26hl%3Den%26um%3D1
 
http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=212191
 
And for comparisons sake: Common Nightingale
 
http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=193776
 
Note, that apart from structure, no black in tale, darker brown above, stronger bill etc
 
Cheers and good birding!
 
Dimitris
 

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Subject: Bird ID
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:43:40 +1100

Dimitris

 

Photo enclosed

 

Lindsay

 

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From: Dimitris Bertzeletos [
Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 8:26 PM
To: canberra birds
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Bird ID

 

Redstarts behave fairly similar to Leaden/Satin Flycatchers. They generally don't perch on the ground and are somewhat stocky and long-tailed (Black Redstart will use buildings though). Wheatears are more thrush like in appearance, longer legged and stockier with moderately long tails. They spend most of their time on the ground.

On passage, however, you can get birds outside their normal habitat so anything is possible.

If Lindsay could send me the photo(s) I could have a look at them (never recieved them via the mailing) list.

Cheers!

Dimitris

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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:39:24 +1100
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Bird ID

The choices I have come up with are based on the closest field guide I have to the area Birds of the Middle East by Porter, Christensen and Schiermacker-Hansen. They are, in no particular order, females of Hooded Wheatear, Common Redstart, and Black Redstart. All occur very roughly in the area north or east of Egypt. Interestingly Porter et al, on one of their Redstart/ Blackstart plates also show a bird in found (I think) in more southern parts of Africa, the Familiar Chat. Lindsay’s photo looks very similar to this species.  In the book it is listed as “vagrant Yemen. Range Africa”

 

Best I can do I’m afraid

 

Mark

 

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From: Paul Mahoney [
Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 5:42 PM
To: ; ;
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Bird ID

 

Redstart was my first guess too, but not a Common Redstart - not found in (or near) Egypt.  Only Redstart in Egypt is a Black Redstart, and this bird is too pale even for a female.
 
Thinking possibly female Hooded Wheatear, but habitat (judging from photo) is not right.
 
Paul
 
> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:31:18 +1100
> From:
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> Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Bird ID
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> I don't have any reference books with me, but probably a Redstart of some sort - possibly a female Common Redstart, but I don't know whether they occur in Egypt.
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> Regards
> Frank Antram
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> From: "Lindsay Hansch"
> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:46:09 +1100
> To: "COG-L"
> Subject: [canberrabirds] Bird ID
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> > Can anyone help me with an ID of the enclosed bird please? The photo was
> > taken at Alexandria, Egypt. Characteristically, it was acting like a
> > flycatcher. And is about the same size as a Leaden/Satin Flycatcher. The
> > main visible feature was the prominent rufous rump.
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> > Regards
> >
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> >
> > Lindsay Hansch
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