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Does Australia Have Too Many National Parks?

To: Peter Shute <>
Subject: Does Australia Have Too Many National Parks?
From: Martin Butterfield <>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 10:27:11 +1100
This will become, more or less, relevant to this thread if not the
underlying objectives of birding-aus, trust me.

>From the wikipedia article on Doonesbury
controversies<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doonesbury#Controversies>
:

   - Trudeau sought input from readers as to where Alex Doonesbury should
   attend college in a May 15, 2006, straw poll at Doonesbury.com. Voters
   chose among MIT <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT>,
Rensselaer<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rensselaer_Polytechnic_Institute>,
   and Cornell <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornell_University>. Students
   from Rensselaer and then MIT hacked the system, which was designed to limit
   each computer to one vote. In the end, voters logged 175,000 votes, with
   MIT grabbing 48% of the total. The Doonesbury Town Hall FAQ stated that
   given that the rules of the poll had not ruled out such methods, "the will,
   chutzpah, and bodacious craft of the voting public will be respected,"
   declaring that Alex will be attending MIT.


Perhaps we should await the admission by someone that they have also been
dong a little crafty coding in respect to the Fairfax poll on National
parks?

Martin

Martin Butterfield
http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/


On 6 March 2014 08:46, Peter Shute <> wrote:

> It's now on 83% yes, and the vote count has increased from about 3000 when
> I looked yesterday evening to nearly 120,000.
>
> At least it's now obvious it can't be believed.
>
> Peter Shute
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Birding-Aus
> >  On Behalf Of Judy Leitch
> > Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2014 8:34 AM
> > To: 'Dave Torr'; 'Laurie Knight'
> > Cc: 'birding-aus'
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Does Australia Have Too Many
> > National Parks?
> >
> > I voted and at that time the NO vote was ahead, I checked 5
> > mins later and the YES vote had doubled :( This also happened
> > 2 weeks ago in a Gold Coast Bulletin online poll with regards
> > a Cruise Ship Terminal on our wonderful Broadwater.
> > Check this out -
> >
> > http://www.itnews.com.au/News/331994,ballot-stuffing-bot-hits-
> > news-ltd-polls
> > .aspx
> >
> > Judy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Birding-Aus
> >  On Behalf Of Dave Torr
> > Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2014 7:19 AM
> > To: Laurie Knight
> > Cc: birding-aus
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Does Australia Have Too Many
> > National Parks?
> >
> > It is well known that all Fairfax readers are left-wing,
> > tree-hugging greenies so why would any good conservative
> > government any any attention to such a poll?
> >
> >
> > On 5 March 2014 17:55, Laurie Knight <> wrote:
> >
> > > There is a link between the conservation estate and the
> > preservation
> > > of wildlife.
> > >
> > > The Australian PM is quoted as saying "We don't support, as a
> > > government and as a Coalition, further lockouts of our
> > forests ...We
> > > have quite enough National Parks, we have quite enough locked up
> > > forests already. In fact, in an important respect, we have too much
> > > locked
> > up forest."
> > >
> > > There is a poll in the Fairfax media that runs until 9 pm
> > EST, 10 pm
> > > EDST and 7 pm WST where you can note your opinion.
> > >
> > > http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-
> > > news/no-more-national-parks-as-tony-abbott-pledges-to-
> > > support-loggers-as-the-ultimate-conservationists-20140305-345zp.html
> > >
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