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NOTICE: Application for Permits at Leanyer Sewage Farm, NT

To: Carl Clifford <>
Subject: NOTICE: Application for Permits at Leanyer Sewage Farm, NT
From: Chris Sanderson <>
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:41:33 +1000
Hi Carl,

You are spot on, but I think you are looking at this issue from the wrong
side - part of the reason for refusal to renew permits was that NTP&W's
concern that people were entering Leanyer without having done an induction,
illegally.  Some were sneaking in behind others with keys, others were
getting in having borrowed a key.  Essentially the kind of behaviour you are
arguing birders should be able to continue almost spoiled it for everyone.
 For a while it looked like birders might not be allowed back in at all!  So
to be honest, if organising to do an induction is too much of a hassle for
your holiday, then maybe choose another site to bird at.

I briefly flagged these issues when the original closure happened back in
October last year:
http://bird-o.com/2010/10/02/living-leanyer-a-birding-jewel/

No one has said key holders won't be able to take non-inductees with them at
this stage, so perhaps that will still be allowed?  Personally I'm glad that
locals in NT have been able to work with NTP&W to arrange access again, it
would have been sad if the closure had remained permanently.

Cheers,
Chris

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Carl Clifford <>wrote:

> Hi Simon,
>
> Well, that opens a can of worms. NTP&W making an OH&S induction course a
> condition for a permit places any permit holder who allows a person who has
> not completed the induction to accompany them to Leanyer in an invidious
> position. NTP&W has shifted the public risk liability onto the permit holder
> who allows any non-inducted person to accompany them. Permit holders who
> give their key to anyone who has not been inducted, and allows that person
> to go into Leanyer by themselves, may well find themselves even further in
> the legal deep end.
>
> This policy may well result in hiring professional guides with public
> liability insurance, the only way for visiting birders to visit Leanyer.
>
> Carl Clifford
>
>
> On 22/09/2011, at 4:31 PM, Simon Mustoe wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Peter Kyne has requested that we kindly pass on information from NT Power
> and Water, regarding access to Leanyer Sewage Farm. Note, the application
> for a permit will only suit locals and the deadline is 30 September. Here is
> his message:
>
> Dear NT Birders,
> To assist Power and Water in arranging access to Leanyer Sewage
> Ponds, they have asked to I co-ordinate a list of all of those people
> interested in obtaining a permit to access the ponds. At this stage please
> use me as a central contact point rather than individually contacting Power
> and Water.
> This is the first step for Power and Water to begin preparing indemnities
> and keys, and in upgrading their database. Following this will be an
> induction process,
> with Power and Water looking at a group induction in the first
> instance. Date and time to be advised in due course. So please, don’t
> apply if you are not able to make yourself available for this induction,
> thanks ; )
> If you wish to obtain a permit, please advise me of the following details
> by 12 noon FRIDAY 30 September:
> 1.       First name and surname
> 2.       Email address
> 3.       Residential address
> 4.       Phone number (home/mobile)
> 5.       If you are a member of the NTFNC
> Permits will be issued for a 3 year period with a $50 key deposit. Previous
> key deposits will be honoured.
> Many thanks, Pete Kyne
>
> Peter Kyne, PhD
> Tropical Rivers and Coastal Knowledge
> Charles Darwin University
> Darwin 0909 NT, Australia
> Ph: 08 8946 7616
> Mob: 0435 139 322
>
> For more information on Leanyer and birding in the Top End,
> http://bird-o.com/northern-**territory-and-the-top-end/<http://bird-o.com/northern-territory-and-the-top-end/>
>
> Regards,
>
> Simon.
>
>
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