NOTICE: Application for Permits at Leanyer Sewage Farm, NT

To: "Colin R" <>
Subject: NOTICE: Application for Permits at Leanyer Sewage Farm, NT
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:18:02 +1000

If you are not aware of the potential dangers, it makes it a bit difficult to take responsibility for your own safety. The reasons for requiring people to undertake OH&S inductions, is so that people are aware of potential dangers and can take responsibility for their own safety.

It is not just public liability that rears it nasty little head here. As places such as Leanyer and Werribee are industrial sites, Workcover legislation comes into play in cases of serious injury or death in such places. Believe me, you do not want to get on the wrong side of that. As a former OH&S officer, I have been involved in two Workcover investigations and I am glad I was on the sidelines, so to speak. Both investigations were quite harrowing for the persons being investigated.


Carl Clifford

PS I don't think that it is a good idea to publicise the fact that you intend to illegally enter a restricted area on B-A.

On 23/09/2011, at 10:51 AM, Colin R wrote:

Has that ever happened i.e someone suffering severe injury - or
similar - in these circumstances? Sorry, I had to ask.....and

With absolutely no reference to anyone else's comments,
observations or conclusions I have to say sometimes we all get a
bit precious about injury and the possible consequences. Most, if
not all, of the people I know would just get on with it and TAKE
RESPONSIBILITY for their own safety. Actually I don't think I
know one person who would pursue legal action in the type of
circumstances being described here.
I don't really want to prolong the argument/discussion but
sometimes I feel that repeated expressed 'dire consequences'
contribute to the overall perception that taking legal action is
a common and acceptable method of behaviour - and results in a
level of unnatural paranoia.

I think we can all do with some sanity and preferably refrain
from worrying others unnecessarily or suggesting that this is a
regular or even probably occurrence, when, I believe, it is much
rarer than we think and probably dealt with accordingly by the
court and justice system.

I know somebody will probably have an example of someone they
knew who blah bla blah... sorry, but, please, can we minimise the
expressions of portending disaster and realistically appraise

Once again I am not targeting anyone's specific comments - simply
stating an opinion!

Have a good weekend!

PS: I'm off to Straddie tomorrow. Have to 'break into' the
headland as they have it fenced off to repair the path (which was
actually fine and it is in the middle of the whale migration - go
figure) - hope I don't trip and fall, don't know who I'd

(Partially tongue in cheek, but really hoping to make a point
without getting flamed)
 Colin Reid
So many birds, so little time......

-- - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an
                         unladen european swallow


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