Ok guys , if you think it's OK, go ahead. But I don't think it costs $450
for a couple of guys to camp out in the donga for a few days. And as I said
before, I'd rather find the birds for myself. Missing out for the time being
is not all that unmanageable and I've still got my $450 to spend on another
trip looking for PPs some other time.
Better than being spoon fed I reckon.
Tony.
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On Behalf Of John Reidy
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2010 5:19 PM
To:
Subject: The price of Princess Parrots
I agree Steve.
The Princess Parrot is such an enigmatic bird that I jumped at the
chance, twice, to go to Kings Canyon to see it. The first time without a
permit and didn't see it, but had a great time anyway. The second time
when I knew I could get to the right area, with a permit, sure it cost
$450 for the permit, but what a bird. I think its a bargain.
It was only with some major efforts by the CLC, the traditional owners
and others that this became possible at all.
Yes, the birds may disperse into easy to get at areas, but my bet is
that they won't. They will most likely disappear back into the desert
from where they came.
Anyway I am as pleased as punch that I went and saw them.
Happy Birding.
John
On 30/11/10 16:48, Steve wrote:
> Hello all. I know people are probably getting tired of this topic but some
> things have been said that are at best ill considered, and at worst, just
> plain rude. If you think $450.00 for a days guiding to see one of
> Australia's most difficult birds, then that's fine. But don't go making
> accusations about "Rip offs" and "profiteering" without knowing anything
> about how the fees have been constructed. First of all, the permit is not
> just "a piece of paper" allowing you to enter someone's land. It covers
the
> costs involved in escorting you through that land. The indigenous owners
> have decreed that they don't want people wandering willy nilly through
their
> property (gee I wonder why not?) The logistics of making this happen are
> not even remotely comparable with what happens in Thailand, so why even
> bring it up? Just remember there are huge distances involved here. People
> came from Alice Springs to co-ordinate this which is a four and half hour
> drive away, and petrol is expensive out there. Our indigenous guides
camped
> out in the middle of nowhere to meet us on the morning of the viewing.
Come
> on guys, there is more involved here than people realise. I don't know how
> the figure is arrived at myself, and yes, it was expensive for me too. But
I
> wouldn't dream of calling it a rip off without knowing all the facts. And
to
> criticise those that are prepared to pay the amount on the grounds that it
> encourages gouging.well, that's just beyond the pale.
>
> Steve Murray
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