The price of Princess Parrots

Subject: The price of Princess Parrots
From: John Reidy <>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:48:38 +1100
I agree Steve.

The Princess Parrot is such an enigmatic bird that I jumped at the chance, twice, to go to Kings Canyon to see it. The first time without a permit and didn't see it, but had a great time anyway. The second time when I knew I could get to the right area, with a permit, sure it cost $450 for the permit, but what a bird. I think its a bargain.

It was only with some major efforts by the CLC, the traditional owners and others that this became possible at all.

Yes, the birds may disperse into easy to get at areas, but my bet is that they won't. They will most likely disappear back into the desert from where they came.

Anyway I am as pleased as punch that I went and saw them.

Happy Birding.


On 30/11/10 16:48, Steve wrote:
Hello all. I know people are probably getting tired of this topic but some
things have been said that are at best ill considered, and at worst, just
plain rude. If you think $450.00 for a days guiding to see one of
Australia's most difficult birds, then that's fine. But don't go making
accusations about "Rip offs" and "profiteering" without knowing anything
about how the fees have been constructed. First of all, the permit is not
just "a piece of paper" allowing you to enter someone's land. It covers the
costs involved in escorting you through that land. The indigenous owners
have decreed that they don't want people wandering willy nilly through their
property (gee I wonder why not?)  The logistics of making this happen are
not even remotely comparable with what happens in Thailand, so why even
bring it up?  Just remember there are huge distances involved here. People
came from Alice Springs to co-ordinate this which is a four and half hour
drive away, and petrol is expensive out there.  Our indigenous guides camped
out in the middle of nowhere to meet us on the morning of the viewing. Come
on guys, there is more involved here than people realise. I don't know how
the figure is arrived at myself, and yes, it was expensive for me too. But I
wouldn't dream of calling it a rip off without knowing all the facts. And to
criticise those that are prepared to pay the amount on the grounds that it
encourages gouging.well, that's just beyond the pale.

Steve Murray


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