Problems with the Birding Shop

To: Steve <>, "" <>, "'Bill Stent'" <>
Subject: Problems with the Birding Shop
From: "James O'Connor" <>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:17:38 +1000
Hi all,

I'd just like to confirm that there is no relationship between Birds Australia 
and the Birding Shop. The two used to share premises and had a formal 
relationship, which was dissolved several years ago.

Birds Australia has no formal relationship with the Birding-Aus list either, 
although we happily acknowledge the important role this forum plays in 
facilitating communication and sharing knowledge in the birding community, and 
we appreciate the great job Russell does in maintaining and moderating the list 
and its discussions.

Have a good weekend.


James O'Connor
Research Manager
Birds Australia
Suite 2-05, 60 Leicester St
Carlton  VIC  3053

Ph (03) 9347 0757
Fax (03) 9347 9323
Toll free: 1300 730 075

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-----Original Message-----
 On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, 16 July 2010 12:49 PM
To: ; 'Bill Stent'
Subject: Problems with the Birding Shop

Bill and Russell....My apologies. I actually meant Birds Australia not
Birding-Aus. That's where I found out about the Birding Shop.
Steve Murray

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, 16 July 2010 9:22 AM
To: Bill Stent
Cc: Steve; 'John Penhallurick'; 
Subject: Problems with the Birding Shop

Thanks, Bill.

Can I clarify that there is NO connection between Birding-Aus and
Birds Australia? The Birding Shop used to share premises with Birds
Australia but I think that is no longer the case.
There is no longer a link from the new  birding-aus website
) to the Birding Shop.
The old birding-aus website is likely to disappear soon as I no longer
have access to that server.

Russell Woodford
Birding-Aus List Owner

Geelong   Victoria   Australia

On 16/07/2010, at 8:05 AM, Bill Stent wrote:

> No, Steve, the Birding-Aus newsgroup is not connected with the
> Birding Shop (or Birds Australia for that matter) in any way.
> Poor Russell must be having a heart attack.
> Bill (moderator)
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Steve" <>
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:48 AM
> To: "'John Penhallurick'" <>;
> >
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Problems with the Birding Shop
>> Dear Birders..... In September 2009 I ordered 9 of the Boca CD's
>> from the
>> Birding Shop. 5 of them arrived after a couple of months. After
>> several
>> months of unanswered emails and fruitless phone calls I eventually
>> received
>> two more. I am still missing 2 and I think I have done my money on
>> those. I
>> became so frustrated I ordered the remaining CD's directly from
>> BOCA and
>> they arrived within a couple of days. If anyone is thinking of
>> getting the
>> BOCA CD's I would strongly recommend ordering them from BOCA
>> direct. The
>> Birding Shop did not answer any of my emails and it is almost
>> impossible to
>> get them on the phone. I do not know if this business is linked in
>> any way
>> to Birding-aus (there is a link I think from the website)...I hope
>> not.
>> Steve Murray
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 
>>  On Behalf Of John
>> Penhallurick
>> Sent: Thursday, 15 July 2010 11:46 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Problems with the Birding Shop
>> Dear Friends,
>> Please note the email from Roger Giller below.  It appears that
>> something
>> very odd is going on with the Birdingshop.  I placed an order for 3
>> CDs last
>> Sunday night.  The credit card payment was processed on the same
>> day, maybe
>> by some automated process. No CDs have arrived. I have tried to
>> call them
>> repeatedly during the week, but the phone always goes through to
>> messagebank.  I have contacted the Camberwell Police and asked them
>> to
>> investigate. I will be contacting birding-aus tomorrow morning,
>> since they
>> appear to be the lease-holders of the shop. I would advise everyone
>> not to
>> make any purchases from the birding shop until this who matter is
>> clarified.
>> Dr John Penhallurick
>> 86 Bingley Cres
>> Fraser A.C.T. 2615
>> Australia
>> email:
>> Phone: Home (612) 62585428
>> Mobile:0408585426
>> Please visit my website:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Roger Giller 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:04 PM
>> To: John Penhallurick
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Some bird calls
>> Hello John,
>> The Birding Shop appears to be having some difficulties to say the
>> least.
>> Note at the top of their web page the call for expressions of
>> interest in
>> purchasing the business.
>> I ordered three quick-release tripod heads last December, paying by
>> Pay-Pal.
>> After lots of phone calls and emails I have received two, several
>> weeks
>> apart, around April/May. They obviously had no stock, and no way of
>> purchasing them from the wholesaler/agents as I confirmed the
>> latter had
>> plenty of stock. Any emails I sent with the subject line "Missing
>> Order"
>> received an automated response to say that my order was being
>> processed. I
>> eventually made phone contact with the proprietor Charles who got
>> me the two
>> I received. Both were obviously not new, but nothing wrong with them.
>> Charles hinted that there had been some financial problems caused
>> by a
>> former employee. I understand he is no longer associated with the
>> business.
>> I still call and leave another message every so often, but never
>> get a call
>> returned. I'm just glad I did not order a complete set of HANZAB.
>> Based on my experience I would be most surprised if you ever
>> receive the
>> CDs. If you have any contacts in Melbourne you could ask them to
>> investigate.
>> I hope your Central Australia trip goes well. Sounds like a good
>> time to be
>> going there given the recent rains.
>> Regards
>> Roger Giller.

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