It's interesting the strong attachment people have to bird names, I assume this
must come with familiarity. Personally, I'm so new to birding that none of my
field guides call it Jabiru, and I have no attachment to that name. I've never
seen one, so I have no attachment to Black-necked Stork either.
I don't care what they change it to, if they do, just so long as they don't
turn around and change it back. Avoiding confusion is more attractive to me
than a nice name.
Peter Shute
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From: Alistair McKeough
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 3:02 PM
To: Peter Shute
Cc: ; Greg & Val Clancy; birding aus
Subject: Re: Re: [Birding-Aus] One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula, near
Broome
PS - no offense to Greg or anyone of course! Just my view that I think Jabiru
has a wonderful ring to it.
2009/11/19 Alistair McKeough
<<>>
Yes, it has.
In brief and from memory, Jabiru is a South American name and there is another
bird bearing that nomenclature so the international types want it changed.
I think Jabiru is a wonderful name and the lament the ridiculous suggestion
that any purported confusion with some overseas species nobody in Australia
gives a hoot about is sufficient reason to change it.
Pee Wee. Jabiru. Wonderful stuff and nomenclature I will personally continue to
use.
2009/11/19 Peter Shute <<>>
I think this has been discussed here several times before, so a search for
jabiru and satin in the archives might tell you all there is to know.
Peter Shute
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To: Greg & Val Clancy
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Subject: Re: Re: [Birding-Aus] One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula, near
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G'day Gret,
That's pretty interesting. I've not known about the origins behind the name
Jabiru. I've always assumed it was an Aboriginal name, it certainly sounds like
it could be an Aboriginal word.
How was the proposed new name of Satin Stork arrived at? Sorry if this is
common knowledge, but I'm not very up to date on the process associated with
how names are decided.
Regards,
Mark
> Greg & Val Clancy <<>> wrote:
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> I read you post with interest and noted that you hate using the name
> 'Black-necked Stork'. The neck is actually black, with a blue-green
> sheen, and although probably not the most appropriate name for the
> species it has been in use in Asia and Australia since at least the
> late 1880's. The bird books that I used when starting out birding
> many years back all called it "Jabiru' and that is what I knew it as
> for many years. Having recently completed my PhD studies on the
> species I am now a strong advocate for not calling it "Jabiru'. The
> reasons for this are: it is not a Jabiru - a Jabiru is a South
> American stork species which has only a few similarities to our
> elegant bird; 'Jabiru' is a Tupi-Guarani name for the species which
> means 'swollen neck', referring to its habit of inflating its bald
> neck pouch, very different to our slender necked species; the south
> American bird has precedence over the name which is also its generic
> name.
>
> When I hear or read the name 'Back-necked Stork' I visualise the
> beautiful, elegant bird that it is I don't lament the loss of a
> totally inappropriate name for Australia's only stork species.
> However if 'Black-necked Stork' is too much to bear you will be happy
> to know that when the New Guinea and Australian populations of this
> species are separated out from the Asian populations, which is likely
> in the future, the name 'Satin Stork' will,
>
> hopefully, be applied to our birds. This name received support from
> the
>
> Birds Australia Common Names Committee but it will only be with
> widespread acceptance that it will become 'set in stone.' So far I
> have received a
>
> large amount of support for the name. I hope you will also support it.
>
>
> Greg Clancy
> Ecologist
> Coutts Crossing
> NSW
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