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Re: Re: [Birding-Aus] One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula, near

To: Peter Shute <>
Subject: Re: Re: [Birding-Aus] One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula, near Broome
From: Alistair McKeough <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:02:29 +1100
PS - no offense to Greg or anyone of course! Just my view that I think
Jabiru has a wonderful ring to it.

2009/11/19 Alistair McKeough <>

> Yes, it has.
>
> In brief and from memory, Jabiru is a South American name and there is
> another bird bearing that nomenclature so the international types want it
> changed.
>
> I think Jabiru is a wonderful name and the lament the ridiculous suggestion
> that any purported confusion with some overseas species nobody in Australia
> gives a hoot about is sufficient reason to change it.
>
> Pee Wee. Jabiru. Wonderful stuff and nomenclature I will personally
> continue to use.
>
>
>
> 2009/11/19 Peter Shute <>
>
> I think this has been discussed here several times before, so a search for
>> jabiru and satin in the archives might tell you all there is to know.
>>
>> Peter Shute
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  [mailto:
>>  On Behalf Of
>> 
>> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 2:21 PM
>> To: Greg & Val Clancy
>> Cc: birding aus
>> Subject: Re: Re: [Birding-Aus] One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula,
>> near Broome
>>
>>
>> G'day Gret,
>>
>> That's pretty interesting. I've not known about the origins behind the
>> name Jabiru. I've always assumed it was an Aboriginal name, it certainly
>> sounds like it could be an Aboriginal word.
>>
>> How was the proposed new name of Satin Stork arrived at? Sorry if this is
>> common knowledge, but I'm not very up to date on the process associated with
>> how names are decided.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> > Greg & Val Clancy <> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Gary,
>> >
>> > I read you post with interest and noted that you hate using the name
>> > 'Black-necked Stork'.  The neck is actually black, with a blue-green
>> > sheen, and although probably not the most appropriate name for the
>> > species it has been in use in Asia and Australia since at least the
>> > late 1880's.  The bird books that I used when starting out birding
>> > many years back all called it "Jabiru' and that is what I knew it as
>> > for many years.  Having recently completed my PhD studies on the
>> > species I am now a strong advocate for not calling it "Jabiru'.  The
>> > reasons for this are: it is not a Jabiru - a Jabiru is a South
>> > American stork species which has only a few similarities to our
>> > elegant bird; 'Jabiru' is a Tupi-Guarani name for the species which
>> > means 'swollen neck', referring to its habit of inflating its bald
>> > neck pouch, very different to our slender necked species; the south
>> > American bird has precedence over the name which is also its generic
>> > name.
>> >
>> > When I hear or read the name 'Back-necked Stork' I visualise the
>> > beautiful, elegant bird that it is I don't lament the loss of a
>> > totally inappropriate name for Australia's only stork species.
>> > However if 'Black-necked Stork' is too much to bear you will be happy
>> > to know that when the New Guinea and Australian populations of this
>> > species are separated out from the Asian populations, which is likely
>> > in the future, the name 'Satin Stork' will,
>> >
>> > hopefully, be applied to our birds.  This name received support from
>> > the
>> >
>> > Birds Australia Common Names Committee but it will only be with
>> > widespread acceptance that it will become 'set in stone.'  So far I
>> > have received a
>> >
>> > large amount of support for the name.  I hope you will also support it.
>> >
>> >
>> > Greg Clancy
>> > Ecologist
>> > Coutts Crossing
>> > NSW



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