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Re: Re: [Birding-Aus] One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula, near

To: Peter Shute <>
Subject: Re: Re: [Birding-Aus] One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula, near Broome
From: Alistair McKeough <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:01:22 +1100
Yes, it has.

In brief and from memory, Jabiru is a South American name and there is
another bird bearing that nomenclature so the international types want it
changed.

I think Jabiru is a wonderful name and the lament the ridiculous suggestion
that any purported confusion with some overseas species nobody in Australia
gives a hoot about is sufficient reason to change it.

Pee Wee. Jabiru. Wonderful stuff and nomenclature I will personally continue
to use.



2009/11/19 Peter Shute <>

> I think this has been discussed here several times before, so a search for
> jabiru and satin in the archives might tell you all there is to know.
>
> Peter Shute
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 2:21 PM
> To: Greg & Val Clancy
> Cc: birding aus
> Subject: Re: Re: [Birding-Aus] One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula,
> near Broome
>
>
> G'day Gret,
>
> That's pretty interesting. I've not known about the origins behind the name
> Jabiru. I've always assumed it was an Aboriginal name, it certainly sounds
> like it could be an Aboriginal word.
>
> How was the proposed new name of Satin Stork arrived at? Sorry if this is
> common knowledge, but I'm not very up to date on the process associated with
> how names are decided.
>
> Regards,
> Mark
>
>
> > Greg & Val Clancy <> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gary,
> >
> > I read you post with interest and noted that you hate using the name
> > 'Black-necked Stork'.  The neck is actually black, with a blue-green
> > sheen, and although probably not the most appropriate name for the
> > species it has been in use in Asia and Australia since at least the
> > late 1880's.  The bird books that I used when starting out birding
> > many years back all called it "Jabiru' and that is what I knew it as
> > for many years.  Having recently completed my PhD studies on the
> > species I am now a strong advocate for not calling it "Jabiru'.  The
> > reasons for this are: it is not a Jabiru - a Jabiru is a South
> > American stork species which has only a few similarities to our
> > elegant bird; 'Jabiru' is a Tupi-Guarani name for the species which
> > means 'swollen neck', referring to its habit of inflating its bald
> > neck pouch, very different to our slender necked species; the south
> > American bird has precedence over the name which is also its generic
> > name.
> >
> > When I hear or read the name 'Back-necked Stork' I visualise the
> > beautiful, elegant bird that it is I don't lament the loss of a
> > totally inappropriate name for Australia's only stork species.
> > However if 'Black-necked Stork' is too much to bear you will be happy
> > to know that when the New Guinea and Australian populations of this
> > species are separated out from the Asian populations, which is likely
> > in the future, the name 'Satin Stork' will,
> >
> > hopefully, be applied to our birds.  This name received support from
> > the
> >
> > Birds Australia Common Names Committee but it will only be with
> > widespread acceptance that it will become 'set in stone.'  So far I
> > have received a
> >
> > large amount of support for the name.  I hope you will also support it.
> >
> >
> > Greg Clancy
> > Ecologist
> > Coutts Crossing
> > NSW



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