And that goes for Hornsby near Austin, Texas. In fact the hide there has
been used for marriage ceremonies.
Denise
on 20/7/09 10:47 AM, Dave Torr at wrote:
> Economic maybe not, but social benefits are another angle - councils spend a
> lot of money on things which have little or no economic return (libraries,
> sportsgrounds, art galleries) but which enhance the general "community".
> Bird hides - like nature trails etc - can also enhance the community. Some
> places do it really well - I recently visited the Las Vegas sewage works
> which have a magnificent hide staffed by volunteers - no econonic return
> there but is widely used both by locals and visitors.
> And of course if there are good facilities locally maybe the local birders
> will not travel to the next town (and spend some money there) to use their
> hide!
>
> 2009/7/20 Peter Shute <>
>
>> I guess there's no economic benefit if only locals use it. How hard would
>> it be for a visitor to access the proposed hide?
>>
>> There is the same problem with maintaining hides once they're built. Hides
>> may have been in use for decades without anyone ever collecting any evidence
>> that they have ever been used. Some have log books, but these aren't
>> practical everywhere - they'd just provide kindling for the vandals.
>>
>> Peter Shute
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From:
>> On Behalf Of Tim Hosking
>> Sent: Monday, 20 July 2009 9:08 AM
>> To: Birding Aus
>> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Birding economics
>>
>> I'd be very interested in any Australian-based bird tourism economic stats,
>> particularly inland NSW - the Field Nats here in Dubbo are about to present
>> information to Council to fight for a bird hide at the Dubbo STP as proposed
>> by Council engineering staff.
>>
>> We're in for a good fight, I think, as the councillors don't see any
>> 'value' in such a (self-sustaining, low maintenance) facility.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim Hosking, Dubbo
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Denise Goodfellow
>> Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 5:06 PM
>> To: Alan McBride; Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge
>> Cc: Birding Aus
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Birding economics
>>
>> Dear Alan
>> I've been aware of such statistics for a long time, which is why I tried so
>> hard to get the NT government to take the market seriously.
>>
>> In 2006, 23 million Americans stayed away from home overnight for the
>> purposes of watching birds.
>>
>> In my experience these people tend to do more than just feed birds. But it
>> does take some digging to find how knowledgeable they are. And women, the
>> majority of American birdwatchers, may understate their level of knowledge.
>>
>> My PhD is on American birdwatchers who travel internationally. I hope to
>> release preliminary results in a couple of weeks.
>> Denise
>>
>>
>> on 19/7/09 2:36 PM, Alan McBride at wrote:
>>
>>> Keith et al,
>>>
>>> These would be great figures and the document for all of us to send to
>>> councils for birding activities, opening of Sewage Ponds, etc.
>>>
>>> Simply search Google (or whatever) for articles on this story and send
>>> off to all (non)-interested parties:-)
>>>
>>> Glad it helps.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20/07/2009, at 14:59 , Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for those links Alan. We are trying to convince the local
>>> tourist authorities of the value of birdwatching so these articles are
>>> great!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Lindsay & Keith,
>>>
>>> Keith & Lindsay Fisher
>>> Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge
>>> RN 6 Mt. Kooyong Road
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>>>
>>>
>>> Alan McBride wrote:
>>>> Amazing numbers: can't imagine what Britain's numbers are like:-)
>>>>
>>>> May be just useful too to fight the "gun lobby"!
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/kj5eno
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BIRDWATCHERS: THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!
>>>> U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service determines 1 in 5 Americans are
>>>> birdwatchers
>>>>
>>>> Look to your left. Look to your right. Now prepare yourself, because
>>>> there's a solid chance that one of those people is<gasp<a
>>>> birdwatcher! According to a study conducted by the U.S. Fish and
>>>> Wildlife Service, 1 in 5 Americans participates in birdwatching.
>>>> That's 20 percent of the population, or about 48 million people.
>>>>
>>>> Which is shocking, because I've never met even one birdwatcher in my
>>>> life. By here they exist, a silent but powerful lobby with the cash
>>>> to push their avian agenda into the mainstream: The USFWS reports
>>>> that birdwatchers contribute over $36 billion (billion!) to the U.S.
>>>> economy. They're not going anywhere, either<the birdwatching
>>>> percentage of the population has remained steady over the last ten
>>>> years, despite the introduction of multiple alternatives to
>>>> birdwatching.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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