Savannah cat story

To: "'Bill Stent'" <>, "'peter crow'" <>, "'Dave Torr'" <>
Subject: Savannah cat story
From: "Paul Dodd" <>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:41:18 +1000
Let me first say that I agree with the banning of these animals!

As for the people that were planning to import them - the article in "The
Age", this morning, says:

"Glenn and Karen Parker, of Benowa, planned to import 14 savannah cats later
this year and say they have written approval from the federal government and
Australian Customs."

Firstly the authority from Customs would be worthless, because it would not
survive a change of law - in other words, no approval from Customs or any
other government or semi-government department would be enforceable if it
contravened the CURRENT law.

However, the other point about having written approval from the Federal
Government, if accurate, would allow the Parkers to sue, I should imagine.
There would certainly have to be provision for compensation if an agreement
was reached with the government and the law was subsequently changed. I
don't think this would come under the category of "sovereign risk".

A couple of points, though - when they say they had written approval from
the Federal Government, I wonder from whom the agreement was sought - if
it's simply another government department then my initial point stands for
this too, however if it is from the Minister or the Ministry responsible
(presumably Environment) then I think they would have reasonable grounds to

Herein lies the rub, though - the only way they would ever get compensation
is by suing - and I think that will be a very long, drawn-out and expensive


-----Original Message-----
 On Behalf Of Bill Stent
Sent: Monday, 4 August 2008 3:20 PM
To: peter crow; Dave Torr
Cc: birding australia
Subject: Savannah cat story

I think that would be acting immorally, but maybe not illegally.  Of
course morals are highly subjective.

My point before was that they were foolish because they invested money
before the final decision had been made. 


-----Original Message-----
From: peter crow  
Sent: Monday, 4 August 2008 3:15 PM
To: Dave Torr
Cc: Bill Stent; birding australia
Subject: Savannah cat story


They did act foolishly. they made a decision without considering the
potential damage  to native wildlefe. In my opinion that's foolish.

On 04/08/2008, at 2:32 PM, Dave Torr wrote:

> But the article makes it plain that they had permission "The Parkers 
> had planned to import 14 Savannah Cats in November after gaining 
> written approval from the Federal Government and Australian Customs.".

> So seems they did not act foolishly and as the government has changed 
> its mind (and for once in the correct way!) the Parkers have I would 
> have thought some grounds for feeling hard done by!
> 2008/8/4 Bill Stent <>

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