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ID request: Broad-billed Sandpiper/Dunlin

To: "David Stowe" <>
Subject: ID request: Broad-billed Sandpiper/Dunlin
From: "Dave Torr" <>
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 11:34:05 +1100
Actually I was not quite correct on the BS Kite

Birdlife International and the IOU have Elanus caeruleus as Black-winged
Kite (this is the African form) and E. axillaris as Black-shouldered Kite
(the Aus species). Clements calls the first Black-shouldered and the second
Australian - so the split is accepted but the names are confusing!
Elanus caeruleus


On 05/01/2008, Dave Torr <> wrote:
>
> Olive-backed Sunbird seems to be the internationally accepted name and is
> used in the latest Pizzey. Clements has split (from memory) the Australian
> form of the Black-shouldered Kite and so has named ours the Australian one,
> but this does not seem to be universally accepted yet?
>
> On 05/01/2008, David Stowe <> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike
> > Yes i agree that the Sacred is a Forest Kingfisher. Whilst my ID
> > skills are not any where in the same league as yourself i would agree
> > that the Terns are not Black-naped.
> > The "Broad-billed Sandpiper" is the image after the Bridled Tern and
> > still seems to be labelled as such on my web browser.
> >
> > The naming of a couple of birds is different to what i am used to as
> > well. Is that the "international naming" or just old names. eg -
> > Olive-backed Sunbird, Australian Kite??
> >
> > Cheers
> > David Stowe
> >
> >
> > On 05/01/2008, at 9:56 AM, Mike Carter wrote:
> >
> > > This exercise shows just how hopeless I am at negotiating web-pages
> > > which is why I rarely visit them! I couldn't find any shot labelled
> > > Broad-billed Sandpiper! I did find one of a Curlew Sandpiper
> > > correctly labelled as such. A Dunlin at Cairns would be very
> > > exciting. Less than a handful of records in the whole of Australia.
> > > Perhaps that was the shot originally titled Broad-billed Sandpiper
> > > relabelled as a result of Chris Corben's ID advice. And relevant to
> > > recent discussions, it also shows why BARC is essential.
> > > While searching for it I did find two other ID errors but I'd be
> > > interested to know if others agree. I'd say the Sacred Kingfisher
> > > is a Forest and the Black-naped Terns are Little Terns. In my
> > > experience the incidence of ID errors is disturbingly high on web-
> > > sites.
> > >
> > > Mike Carter
> > > 30 Canadian Bay Road
> > > Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
> > > Tel  (03) 9787 7136
> > >



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