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Collared Dove import advice

To: "'michael norris'" <>, birding-aus <>,
Subject: Collared Dove import advice
From: "Andrew, Paul" <>
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:48:53 +1000
Morning all

The application in question is for a single bird that has been kept as a pet
by a family for years - the family is moving to Australia and would like to
bring their pet with them. 

I'm slightly surprised at the approach being taken by DEH - I thought they
usually treated this kind of importation as a 'special circumstance', rather
than a change to 'approved list'

I agree we shouldn't be adding decaocto to the approved list if it frees up
importation, but I'd be surprised if anyone was contemplating that.

cheers 

Paul Andrew
Curator
Taronga Zoo
PO Box 20
Mosman 2088
tel: 02-99784724
fax: 02-99784613


-----Original Message-----
From: michael norris  
Sent: Wednesday, 18 May 2005 1:31 PM
To: birding-aus; 
Subject: Collared Dove import advice


Dear all,including Don Saunders (BOCA)

I've been Googling and there is at least one record of hybridisation in the
wild between Eurasian Collared-Dove S decaocto and Barbary Doves S
'risoria'.

See 'Western Birds' Vol 35 No1 2004 which is the report of the California
Bird Records Committee for 2002
http://www.wfo-cbrc.org/cbrc/02report/02report.pdf

It says
"Ringed Turtle-Doves (S. risoria) and hybrid Eurasian Collared-Dove  Ringed
Turtle-Doves occur in California as well. The Eurasian Collared-Dove in
Brawley in 1999 was paired with a Ringed Turtle-Dove and fledged two young.
Two Ringed Turtle-Doves were in Imperial, IMP, 8 Dec 2001 (Kimball L.
Garrett pers. comm.).A Streptopelia near Calipatria, IMP, 26 Jan 2002 and
two together with a Ringed Turtle-Dove in Calipatria 28 Jun 2002 were
apparent hybrids (McCaskie pers. obs.).See also Records Not Accepted,
identification not established, below."

There are also other reports of probable hybrids eg.
http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/BRCF.html

Of course the difficulties in distinguishing the two species in the field
makes it difficult to identify feral or wild hybrids conclusively without
nesting evidence such as that above.

Also note that the CBRC added S.decaocto to the California list in 2002 and
the report includes a summary of its spread through the USA with several 
references.

I'll be submitting the content of this email and my previous one.

But it would be good for all concerned to let the DEH know what they think!

Comment is required by 13 July.and can go to  or by
post.

Michael Norris







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