Cryptic Honeyeater

[Tony Russell <>]

Well, it's gone into my list as CRYPTIC which will do for the noo. 

On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 at 10:44, Geoffrey Dabb <> wrote:

I expect this will be considered by the BLA English Names Committee.  A suitable local name or a suggestion published by the proposer might be eligible.  Uniformity with global lists is another consideration but not necessarily a strong one where there is only a recent invention.  Where a species occurs entirely within Australia, I would expect global lists, over time, to accept the English name used in Australia. There are so many different views on names that calling for suggestions is not usually a rewarding experience.  However if you have reasons in support of a particular name for this one you can send them to me, if you like.

 

Geoffrey

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Hmm, unlikely as generally these minor variants are not recognised. Be interesting to see which one wins out, Cryptic or Imitatress ( word I have never heard before and feminine gender like the scientific name). Maybe we can get to resurrect actress if this trend kicks off?

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Phil Gregory

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On 23 Jan 2020, at 10:23 AM, Andrew Bell <m("bells.id.au","andrew");" target="_blank">> wrote:

 

Did anyone ask the traditional owners of the country if it already has a name that is still known We might have ended up with better one. 

 

Cheers

 

Andrew Bell

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On 23 Jan 2020, at 07:57, Phil Gregory <m("gmail.com","oreornis");" target="_blank">> wrote:

Following a great paper by Lloyd Nielsen last year in AFO, IOC has accepted the split of what is now called Cryptic Honeyeater from Graceful Honeyeater, which occurs further up Cape York  from N of Cooktown on and into S. New Guinea. Thus we have a new FNQ endemic, the split also adopted by BirdLife but with the ludicrous name of Imitatress Honeyeater (derived from the scientific name of imitatrix). There was considerable debate on IOC about what to call it, with the placeholder of Quiet Honeyeater initially, which no-one liked, and eventually Cryptic seemed like a good solution.

So Graceful Honeyeater from Cooktown south is now this species, as flagged in the Field Guide to Birds of North Queensland by Jun Matsui and I (New Holland 2019)

 

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