The depth of the fork between the Calyptorhynchus and Zanda subgenera (15.2 MY)
in the White et al paper is deeper than that between Eolophus (galah) and
Callocepahalon (gang-gang) (12.4 MY), and that between those two and the
Cacatuine/Lophochroa lineage (14.6MY). I suspect that del Hoyo and Collar
interpreted this to mean that Calyptorhynchus should therefore be split.
Harvey
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-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus On Behalf Of
Stephen Ambrose
Sent: Friday, 8 January 2016 11:01 AM
To: 'Mike Owen';
Subject: Zanda?
Thanks Mike. I did not have access to White et al. (2011), I was just relying
on the citations from del Hoyo & Collar (2014) and Winkler et al. (2015), based
on a quick literature search.
del Hoyo & Collar (2014) state in relation to genus Zanda (p. 700):
"Previously included in Calyptorhynchus, but DNA study indicates that
recognition is warranted (White et al. 2011)."
There is no further comment about the DNA study in Winkler et al. (2015) (p.
261), but they have used the Zanda upgrade to genus level by del Hoyo & Collar
(2014).
The species profile for Zanda funerea in the IUCN Red List for Threatened
species <www.iucnredlistorg/details/22684739/0> states "Zanda funerea (del Hoyo
and Collar 2014) was previously placed in the genus Calyptorhynchus as C.
funereus."
So, it looks like del Hoyo & Collar (2014) either misquoted White et al. (2011)
or, as you say, decided to upgrade Zanda to genus based on what they read, and
this has been picked up in subsequent publications.
Kind regards,
Stephen
Stephen Ambrose
Ryde, NSW
-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus On Behalf Of
Mike Owen
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:37 PM
To:
Subject: Zanda?
I have just been looking at my copy of White et al. (2011) and they do not
appear to suggest that /Calyptorhynchus/ be separated into two separate genera
but rather say their DNA work supports Schodde's (1997) recognition of the two
subgenera - /C. (Calyptorhynchus)/ and /C.
(Zanda)/ - on page 620, 2nd paragraph of the paper.
So if the subsequent authors are suggesting the recognition of two separate
genera that must be be their decision rather than one made by White et al.
cheers,
Mike Owen
On 07-Jan-16 8:59 AM, Stephen Ambrose wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> A quick look at the literature:
>
> Zanda was a subgenus of the genus Calyptorhynchus. But DNA studies by White
> et al. (2011) suggested that Zanda should be separated from Calyptorhynchus
> and elevated to genus level. This classification was picked up subsequently
> by del Hoyo & Collar (2014), who are not quoted by the IUCN Red List of
> Threatened Species
> http://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2012-1.RLTS.T22684739A38977158.en and
> Winkler et al. (2015) (my copy also arrived in the post yesterday).
>
> References
>
> Del Hoyo, J. and Collar, N.J. (2014). HBW and BirdLife International
> Illustrated Checklist of the Birds of the World. Vol 1: Non-passerines (Lynx
> Edicions, Barcelona).
>
> White, NE., Phillips, MJ., Gilbert, MTP., Alfaro-Nunez, A., Willerslev, E.,
> Mawsond, PR., Spencer, PBS. and Bunce, M. (2011). The evolutionary history
> of cockatoos (Aves: Psittaciformes: Cacatuidae). Mol. Pylogenet. Evol.
> 59(3): 615-622.
>
> Winkler, DW., Billerman, S.M. and Lovette, IJ (2015). Bird Families of the
> World: An Invitation to the Spectacular Diversity of Birds (Lynx Edicions,
> Barcelona).
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Stephen
>
> Stephen Ambrose
> Ryde, NSW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus On
> Behalf Of John Leonard
> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 8:50 AM
> To:
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Zanda?
>
> I have just received my copy of the Bird Families of the World, from the HBW
> people. Magnificent volume!
>
> Anyway, I see they use Zanda as the generic name for the Yellow-tailed and
> two White-tailed Cockatoos.
>
> When did this happen? I'd like to know as it affects my online persona (I'll
> have to become Zanda now, solemn and mournful, not noisy and gregarious).
>
>
>
> John Leonard
>
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