The Decline of BA

To: Carl Clifford <>
Subject: The Decline of BA
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 06:37:58 +0000
578, if you don't mind. It seems to be growing by about one per day. If 
anyone's interested in joining that group, search for "birding-aus" in 
Facebook, and submit a join request.

Peter Shute

Sent from my iPad

> On 5 Jan 2016, at 4:41 PM, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
> Bill,
> The current number of BA Facebook members is around 570.
> Carl Clifford
>> On 5 Jan 2016, at 12:55 PM, Bill Stent <> wrote:
>> As of right now, there are 1,160 members of the email subscription list, 
>> Lawrie.
>> Obviously there's a range of activity levels there.
>> I'm not sure of the membership of the various Facebook groups, but I
>> suspect they have a larger membership.
>> Bill
>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Lawrie Conole <> wrote:
>>> I've been gone from BA for ages; mostly to do with too much email traffic
>>> and not enough bird/ing! When I checked the BA archive, there it was - very
>>> early posts on BA in 1995 from me, pontificating about various bird-related
>>> matters.  It seems like a lifetime ago ... but a mere 21 years.
>>> If BA is indeed in decline, I'm sad to hear that. I'm firmly of the belief
>>> that (i) folks place too much faith in Facebook being the vehicle of choice
>>> for any useful *long-term* purpose, and (ii) that in the post-Facebook era
>>> many will regret exactly the yawning gap in useful accessible information
>>> that several other writers here have alluded to.
>>> Back in the 1990s I used BA as the vehicle for a survey of field guide
>>> users and their preferences. I imagine Facebook or Twitter would be just as
>>> useful as an email list for that kind of research. If it comes to
>>> searchable associations between birders, birds and places going back
>>> decades though, I don't see the utility or suitability of FB so much.
>>> I use Facebook a bit for matters of ephemeral interest and amusement - I
>>> tend to use Twitter much more for staying in touch with far flung
>>> ecologists, birders, ecological journal papers, etc. Maybe it's time to get
>>> back on BA for a while. Out of interest, how many subscribers are there now?
>>> cheers
>>> Lawrie
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