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Climate change does not bode well for picky eaters

To: Dave Torr <>
Subject: Climate change does not bode well for picky eaters
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:44:03 +1100
Every "step up" in the evolution of Hominids appears to have been associated 
with a major climatic change. Perhaps the present climatic event may result in 
the demise of Homo sapiens sapiens and the emergence of a more intelligent ssp 
of Homo. I hope so, because the current version is not working very well.

Carl Clifford


> On 25 Jan 2015, at 10:51 am, Dave Torr <> wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately Janine there are still those who deny it is happening. And
> there are some who reluctantly agree it might be happening but could not
> possibly be the fault of humans.
> 
> On 25 January 2015 at 09:36, Janine Duffy <>
> wrote:
> 
>> Yes Laurie, I thought the same thing.
>> 
>> There is no need to discuss belief in climate change. Its not a religion.
>> Its science. Let's get on with fighting it.
>> 
>> Janine
>> 
>> Sent from my Motorola RAZR™ M on the Telstra Next G™ Network
>> 
>> Laurie Knight <> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes Ian, believers in what?
>>> 
>>> Even the United States Republican Party accepts that climate change is
>> happening.  Last week the US Senate voted 98-1 that "It is the sense of the
>> Senate that climate change is real and not a hoax.”
>> http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-senate-climate-hoax-20150121-story.html
>>> 
>>> Regards, Laurie.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23 Jan 2015, at 10:59 am, Carl Clifford <>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The believers? What? The Monkees fan club?
>>>> 
>>>> Carl Clifford
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Jan 2015, at 9:10 am, Ian May <> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> H
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Laurie
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not wanting to upset "the believers", I cannot help but wonder if
>> these researchers ever considered that a decline of Antarctic Krill could
>> be caused by the exponential increase of Cetaceans that has occurred over
>> the past two decades.   Is it true that a current population estimate of
>> just one species, the humpback whale has now reached  80,000 individuals?
>> About five years ago, the population estimate at that time had increased
>> to 35,000 animals?
>>>>> See
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cetaceans#Global_Population_Estimates
>> or   http://whaleone.com.au/whale-facts/
>>>>> 
>>>>> As a part time researcher from a time nearing the end of the
>> commercial whaling era when it was rare to sight a large whale in
>> Australian waters, I occasionally pondered the effects on the pelagic world
>> from competition on the basic marine food source impacted by the presence
>> or absence of Cetaceans.
>>>>> My conclusion was that you cannot have your krill and eat it too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ian May
>>>>> PO Box 110
>>>>> St Helens, 7216
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Laurie Knight wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The following study contrasts the fortunes of Chinstrap and Gentoo
>> Penguins
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> see http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150120121304.htm
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Original study: MJ Polito, WZ Trivelpiece, WP Patterson, NJ
>> Karnovsky, CS Reiss, SD Emslie. Contrasting specialist and generalist
>> patterns facilitate foraging niche partitioning in sympatric populations of
>> Pygoscelis penguins. Marine Ecology Progress Series, 2015; 519: 221 DOI:
>> 10.3354/meps11095
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