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Climate change does not bode well for picky eaters

To: David Bishop <>
Subject: Climate change does not bode well for picky eaters
From: Ian May <>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 10:28:38 +1100
Thanks for your reply David.

Yes I think "prior to ma's assault on whales and other cetaceans" the available food balance was probably of little concern regarding population survival, but the problem as I see it, is that now is a time when overall seabird numbers are artificially increased due to the absence of significant feeding competition from Cetaceans, and because of this, the entire seabird population is now at much greater risk of a crash from starvation if impacts on the same available food source are suddenly increased, as must be the case now, not from Climate Change, but from Cetacean feeding competition.

Most people with an agricultural background will be aware of what happens to animals, both wildlife and domestic when severe drought descends on the country. If my memory of J curve is correct, when a population exceeds the carrying capacity of its food source, there "will be" a significant population crash. After this occurs, for species that have evolved to adapt to a boom bust cycle, most of these populations will recover, but as you would be aware, boom bust ecology is not how it is with seabirds and a major crash may well go beyond the tipping point for many of them.

regards

Ian May
PO Box 110
St Helens, TAS 7216

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David Bishop wrote:

Dear Ian,

This sort of connectivity fascinates me. I cannot help but ponder your question as it makes one wonder, if you are correct, what were penguin numbers like prior to ma's assault on whales and other cetaceans? Perhaps the krill population was commensurately larger in those far off times?


David  Bishop



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On 23 Jan 2015, at 9:10 am, Ian May < <>> wrote:

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Hello Laurie

Not wanting to upset "the believers", I cannot help but wonder if these researchers ever considered that a decline of Antarctic Krill could be caused by the exponential increase of Cetaceans that has occurred over the past two decades. Is it true that a current population estimate of just one species, the humpback whale has now reached 80,000 individuals? About five years ago, the population estimate at that time had increased to 35,000 animals? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cetaceans#Global_Population_Estimates or http://whaleone.com.au/whale-facts/

As a part time researcher from a time nearing the end of the commercial whaling era when it was rare to sight a large whale in Australian waters, I occasionally pondered the effects on the pelagic world from competition on the basic marine food source impacted by the presence or absence of Cetaceans.
My conclusion was that you cannot have your krill and eat it too.

regards


Ian May
PO Box 110
St Helens, 7216


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Laurie Knight wrote:

The following study contrasts the fortunes of Chinstrap and Gentoo Penguins

see http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150120121304.htm

Original study: MJ Polito, WZ Trivelpiece, WP Patterson, NJ Karnovsky, CS Reiss, SD Emslie. Contrasting specialist and generalist patterns facilitate foraging niche partitioning in sympatric populations of Pygoscelis penguins. Marine Ecology Progress Series, 2015; 519: 221 DOI: 10.3354/meps11095
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