Hi Martin and All,
A big thank you to you and everyone who provided info on the split. And thanks
for your summary and breakdown of the key points. I had read an excerpt from
birdforum which I had read wrongly but what you said now makes me understand
that extract. It's just so amazing to think that the WA species is different
from the SA one, especially when I think that both the Blue-breasted Fairy Wren
and Rufous Treecreeper found in South West WA are also found in SA too.
And the South West Western Australia is famous for its geographical isolation
and the Golden Whistler attests to this.
All the best,
Patrick
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> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:23:50 -0500
> From: Iain Campbell <>
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> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Golden-shouldered Parrot
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> Hi Guys,
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> Does anyone have recent information on the best place to see
> Golden-shouldered Parrots in late July. I am thinking making the trip this
> year.
>
> Cheers,
> Iain
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 22:27:00 +0000
> From: Martin Cake <>
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> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Western Golden Whistler
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> Hi Patrick et al
>
> I haven't read the Joseph paper but the original Jonsson paper that sparked
> it is available here from a link on birdforum:
> http://192.38.112.111/pdf-reprints/J%F8nsson_PRS_2014.pdf
>> From this paper you can get a sense of the tree - note 'pectoralis
>> fuliginosa' are less closely related to the other Golden Whistler subspecies
>> than the latter are to Mangrove Golden Whistler, making the whole complex
>> paraphyletic. My understanding is in subsequent papers they resampled
>> eastern/SA fuliginosa and clarified that they lump with other eastern birds
>> (youngi and pectoralis).
>
> This split came out of the blue since WA and SA birds have been lumped under
> the same subspecies (fuliginosa) for some time, though Schodde & Mason do
> note WA birds can be distinguished as 'regional form' occidentalis. Not much
> distinguishes these two so its probably fair to call this a cryptic species,
> but the males have a more lemon-yellow breast and greyer tail with a smaller
> back tip. The females are paler and plainer, with a paler back (no contrast
> with the crown) and paler buff on the belly.
>
> The separation occurs at the Nullarbor proper so a quick check of atlas data
> suggests this will not be a WA endemic as there a few records on the SA side
> of the WA/SA border that should be this new species. So an 'almost endemic'!
>
> Cheers
> Martin
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 07:17:02 +0800
> From: Charles <>
> To: Iain Campbell <>
> Cc: "" <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Golden-shouldered Parrot
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> Hi Iain,
>
> My father (Chris) and I saw many birds (mainly Juvenile and female birds -
> just 1 almost mature adult male) on 2 August last year (2014) near Musgrave.
>
> Sue Shepherd from Artemis Station was extremely helpful. When we were there
> Sue had a matter to attend to down south but gave us very specific
> instructions to a site just off the Peninsular Development Road in the
> vicinity of her property.
>
> On the way back from Iron Range we managed just one bird (female). Nearby was
> a prowling feral cat.
>
> Happy to discuss further on a separate email.
>
> Cheers,
> Charles Hunter
> +61 402 907 577
>
>> On 8 Jan 2015, at 5:23 am, Iain Campbell <> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Does anyone have recent information on the best place to see
>> Golden-shouldered Parrots in late July. I am thinking making the trip this
>> year.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Iain
>>
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>>
>> Iain Campbell
>> Tropical Birding Tours
>> www.tropicalbirding.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 00:06:29 +0000
> From: "Moulton, Jennifer" <>
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> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Credo survey report
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> Good morning all,
>
> Here is the link to the report from our Birdlife WA Credo Summer Survey in
> the Great Western Woodlands for anyone interested - a bit belated but I think
> I included every detail :)
>
> http://birdinginwesternaustralia.blogspot.com.au/2015/01/gww-credo-summer-survey.html
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jenny
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 17:08:51 +1000
> From: Laurie Knight <>
> To: Birding Aus <>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Research into the impact of residential
> development on different types of birds
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> see http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150107140758.htm
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 19:42:30 +1000
> From: "Phil & Sue Gregory" <>
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> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Ruff and Red-rumped Swallows
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> Great looks a Ruff at Lake Tinaroo, Yungaburra, FNQ this afternoon, at the
> end of Harper Road on the mudbank opposite and to the right, actually an
> aus-tick for me though I saw one in PNG years ago. Then 10 Red-rumped
> Swallows on power lines by the motel at Tinaburra boat ramp, will post photos
> to Birdforum and ABID when we get the power back here (after a huge fig fell
> down this morning and took out the lines) Be good to try and get which
> subspecies these Red-rumps belong to, they are quite well-streaked dark on
> the chest, unstreaked on the belly, have quite pale but not whitish
> underwing coverts, and lack a red collar; call the usual "sweik" note of many
> Red-rumped taxa.
> Thanks to Alan Gillanaders for the news and coming with us this afternoon,
> but no sign of the putative LRP, just lots of Black-fronted Dots and a couple
> of Red-kneed.
> Phil Gregory
>
> Website 1: Http://www.sicklebillsafaris.com
> Website 2: Http://www.cassowary-house.com.au
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