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Fw: Raven and Crow feet

To: Kev Lobotomi <>, Jenny Spry <>, Shirley Cook <>, birding-aus <>
Subject: Fw: Raven and Crow feet
From: Steve Debus <>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:16:44 +1000
Hi all,

I think the pale area right up the leg would most likely be dust, as corvid 
legs are normally black (tough scales), although fresh juveniles have pale pink 
on the rear of the tibiotarsal joint (where the scales meet skin and feathers).

Regards,

Stephen D.



From: Kev Lobotomi 
Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2014 11:12 PM
To: Jenny Spry; Shirley Cook; Steve Debus; birding-aus
Subject: Fw: Raven and Crow feet

Hi All
I've looked at a few of my photos of all 5 species & yes there is an impression 
of paler soles, perhaps even with a yellowish tinge, but a closer look shows 
that the scales on the bottom of a Corvus foot are very fine compared to the 
large scales on the top of the feet & it gives this impression of paler soles. 
Looking closely at the photos shows that the soles are still blackish, perhaps 
slightly paler than the shiny black of the top of the toes. I think Stephen is 
right about getting dust etc on the soles of the feet may make them look paler 
& perhaps yellowish. I can't see anything that looks straight yellow on any of 
my photos of all 5 species. Kevin Bartram

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> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 20:42:42 +1000
> To: <>; 
> <>; 
> <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Fw: Raven and Crow feet
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thank you Shirley for passing the message on and thank you Steve for your
> input. I have done a bit more research and there are some very good images
> on the International Bird Collection website. Possibly the best is of a
> Torresian Crow at
> http://ibc.lynxeds.com/photo/torresian-crow-corvus-orru/drinking
>
> Another good image is Mat Gilfedder's of a Little Crow at
> http://ibc.lynxeds.com/photo/little-crow-corvus-bennetti/adult-bird-perched-fence
>
> Looking at these where the colouring, certainly not "yellow" as I first
> thought but a "cream" type colour, can be right up the leg. My guess is
> that the legs have lost the black outer coating either from age or by
> abrasion from the habitat the bird is living in. I wonder if the pale
> colouring only develops in inland areas where there is plenty of dry and
> abrasive conditions?
>
> cheers
>
> Jenny
> http://jenniferspryausbirding.blogspot.com.au/
>
>
>
>
> On 3 August 2014 15:13, Shirley Cook 
> <<>> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Here is a comment from Steve Debus
> >
> > Regards
> > Shirley



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