To: Kev Lobotomi <>, Russell Woodford <>, "" <>
Subject: Duck
From: Nikolas Haass <>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:28:54 +0000
Hi all,

There is a nice 3-part article about wildfowl hybridisation by Christoph
Randler in Alula 2001 (issues 2, 3 & 4). And there the 'hybrid wildfowl
bible' by Gillham & Gillham.
Yes, there are Anas X Aythya hybrids. But I don't see Aythya traits in
this bird. I don't think that the bill speaks against the Mallard complex.
The wing pattern speaks for the Mallard complex and against Hardhead which
would show black-tipped white secondaries and primaries creating a
prominent and contrasting white wing stripe.
This bird looks to me like a 'barnyard-type' Pacific Black Duck x Mallard

Best wishes,


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On 21/06/14 11:19 AM, "Kev Lobotomi" <> wrote:

>Hi all
>I would agree with the hybrid bit, but I reckon there's a chance there's
>Hardhead in it! The bill is very Hardhead shaped, with colour a bit like
>Hardhead too, dark grey base with a pale terminal third of the tip. Also
>wing pattern a bit odd for Mallard/Black Duck. Not too much iridescence
>there & a slight whitish wingbar (more like a Hardhead). I've heard that
>Mallard males are very randy & may mate with anything. Perhaps a male
>mated with a Hardhead & produced this? With ducks, I've also heard that
>many ducks, even those not in the same genus can hybridize & produce
>young. Whether something like this would be fertile, would be very
>unlikely I would imagine. Is there anyone out there who can enlighten us
>with knowledge that is better than the "I've heard" stage of information
>I'd be most interested. These pond ducks usually bore the hell out of me,
>but this bird looks a bit interesting.-Kevin Bartram
>> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 09:53:20 +1000
>> From: 
>> To: 
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Duck
>> Hi everyone
>> This bird got my pulse racing this morning. Viewed through a cheap par
>> bins I keep in the kitchen, I was starting to dream of all those
>> hemisphere possibilities. When I got down to the beach with my camera, I
>> found I was looking at either a female Mallard, or a Pacific Black Duck
>> Mallard hybrid. Can anyone tell me which it is? The orange feet suggest
>> Mallard, but there is a hint of the upturned tail feathers diagnostic of
>> male Mallard, so perhaps it is a male hybrid?
>> Russell Woodford
>> Limeburners Lagoon, Corio
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