More interesting albatross...

To: Nikolas Haass <>, Rowan Mott <>, "" <>, Jeff Davies <>
Subject: More interesting albatross...
From: Kev Lobotomi <>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 22:57:52 +1000
Hi guys
Certainly an interesting juvenile bird. I think these birds are hard to 
separate at this age, this one does look interesting though. One thing I've 
noticed, that could be interesting that Jeff or someone might be able to 
comment on is the bill shape and colour. Salvin's has a more slender bill than 
Shy & I've noticed in the few photos I've looked at of immature & possibly 
juvenile Salvin's is their bill looks more slender in profile. Another thing 
which could be very useful, but could be very dependant on how old the bird is, 
is the colour of the bill. Young Salvin's still seems to have darker sides to 
the bill, which contrast more with the top of the culmen, a bit like an adult, 
but not so obvious. Can someone perhaps confirm, or deny this?-Kevin Bartram
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> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:27:33 +0000
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] More interesting albatross...
> Hi Rowan,
> Thanks for sharing these exciting data!
> On another note, currently there is an adult Black-browed Albatross around
> Heligoland, Germany's only off-shore island. Prior to Germany it was seen
> in Northern Denmark. Here are some great shots of this poor lost bird:
> (go to 'Gallery' and then to 'Gallery Germany'). The
> underwing pattern is interesting as it appears to be a bit retarded
> compared to the more adult bill colour.
> On the SOSSA forum I've also posted some of Raja's photos of an
> interesting Shy-type Albatross from the 24th October 2010 off Wollongong:
> -Salvin-s&p=395#post395
> I believe that Salvin's Albatross is over-reported in Australia due to
> mis-identification of other Shy-type Albatross. This bird has caused a bit
> of a debate.
> Interestingly, I have received comments about this bird reaching from Shy
> or White-capped via Salvin's to Chatham! This shows how difficult the
> Shy/White-capped/Salvin's/Chatham business can get! I am curious what
> others say.
> Cheers,
> Nikolas
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> On 5/06/14 10:25 AM, "Rowan Mott" <> wrote:
> >Two banded Black-browed Albatross were seen on the June 1st pelagic out of
> >Portland, Victoria. These have been identified as being banded by Henri
> >Weimerskirch's research group in the Kerguelen Archipelago some 5,700 km
> >from the location of the sightings. Both birds were banded as adults 9 and
> >15 years ago, respectively. As these birds take several years to reach
> >maturity they are likely to be much older.
> >Henri also says that he has ten juvenile Black-browed Albatross from
> >Kerguelen fitted with satellite tags which are currently off the coast of
> >Kangaroo Island and New South Wales.
> >
> >All the best,
> >
> >Rowan
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