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"Heuglin's" Gull in Thailand

To: Mike Carter <>
Subject: "Heuglin's" Gull in Thailand
From: Dave Torr <>
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:52:01 +1100
Mike
IOC does list wintering ranges and for Latham's Snipe has "e Australia"/ So
that is not the issue. We had multiple books including Robson and the
confusion arises I think because IOC (which we tend to use) differs from
most of the books in excluding Heuglin's from that area - but of course
they could be wrong!
I guess it is only IOC that seems to be out of line on this one!
Dave


On 28 January 2014 16:40, Mike Carter <> wrote:

> Hi Dave, it appears to me that the IOC distributions are given for the
> breeding grounds only and do not include the wintering distribution. If,
> for instance you look at Latham's Snipe, they are not listed as occurring
> in Australia, only Japan and nearby where they breed. The major wintering
> grounds for the heuglini race of Lesser Black-backed Gull extends from the
> eastern Mediterranean east to Japan. Robson in his Birds of SE Asia
> includes them as a full species with a status of rare to locally fairly
> common in parts of Thailand. This taxon has occurred just to our north on
> Wetar so is to be expected one day in Australia.
> Did you really go to Thailand without a copy of Robson?
>
> Mike Carter
> 30 Canadian Bay Road
> Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
> Tel  (03) 9787 7136
>
>



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