To: Michael Joseph Murray <>, "" <>
Subject: WTP Map
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:42:59 +1100
Yes, unless someone knows of a more suitable map that already exists, it would 
be good to have something more complete than the Melbourne Water Birdwatching 
Access Map. Incidentally, this is available online at:
and is dated September 2012. Not sure why Brian and Meg were given one dated 
September 2010.

But do we need to start from scratch? Do we need anything more than the above 
map with some added annotations, and perhaps some enlargements? Perhaps we 
could then persuade Melbourne Water to then incorporate our additions, and then 
future permit holders wouldn't have to track down our map on the web.

Kirk Point is marked on the Melways. It's the point about a km south of the 
Beach Rd boat ramp. I've always been confused about what some people call "The 
Summer Ponds", which I think are the ponds either side of Austin Rd, or 
possibly only on the north side. These alternative names should be shown on the 

Peter Shute

From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of Michael 
Joseph Murray 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2014 10:19 AM
Subject: WTP Map

  I had similar issues when I started going to WTP about a year ago. I know
my way around now but still see place names on Birdline that I can't locate
(e.g. Where is Kirk's Pt?).
  If there isn't a more detailed map available I suggest that I coordinate
the production of an improved map using contributed knowledge from more
experienced WTP-goers.
  I am open to suggestions about how this might be achieved but a simple way
would be for individuals who would like to be involved, contacting me by
email - I would send them a PDF file that I have already put together based
on a composite of Google Maps images. They could then add placenames to this
using whatever program they like (e.g. Preview on a Mac is good), and email
them back to me.
  I¹ll compile everything into a new PDF map and make it available.
  The GoogleMap image background would probably need to be replaced with a
schematic further down the track - though we could check with Google.

  What do people think of this idea?

Best wishes,
Mike Murray

On 8/01/14 4:00 AM, ""
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> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 17:30:32 +1100
> From: "Brian & Meg" <>
> To: <>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] WTP Map
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>   Yesterday, My wife and I went to Melbourne Water, filled in the paperwork,
> paid our money and got our key. We were also given a basic map of the WTP,
> dated Sept 2010. Off we went for our first birding experience out there,
> hoping to also find the reported Long-toed Stint (we had attended the Open Day
> tour in early Oct. last year, so we?d seen the basic plan and the various
> roads, etc.)
>    Our map showed us the various numbered gates so we headed for Gate 2 which
> is towards the end of Pt Wilson Rd. The map showed ?Western Lagoon? and we
> thought finding No. 9 (for the Stint) would be easy. Well, we found 2, 3, 4,
> 5, but no No. 9. The map showed Pond 9 up near Lake Borrie so we headed up
> there thinking that this would be the right place. Obviously, the water there
> was too deep for small waders so we knew that this wasn?t it either. So we
> left via Paradise Rd at Gate 5. There, our luck changed when we met a lovely
> birding couple who were often out here. They didn?t know where western lagoon
> 9 was either but they suggested going into the T-Section Lagoon ? in fact,
> they lead us back to Gate 1 and into that area where they directed us to a
> well known spot for Crake and Rail (which was just brilliant ? great views).
> Here we also saw numbered Lagoons but did not find No 9.
>    My point is that regulars to the WTP obviously know the various lagoons but
> for first-timers like ourselves, it can be difficult. Nevertheless, we had a
> great day seeing so many of the waders and ducks and we left feeling contented
> and looking forward to another day out there in the weeks ahead.
>    Has anyone produced a more detailed map, either on paper or as an app for
> the phone? Can someone please explain exactly where Western Lagoon pond 9 is?
> Surely we are not the only ones who have experienced similar frustration.
> Cheers
> Brian

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