To: "" <>
Subject: WTP Map
From: Michael Joseph Murray <>
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 23:19:32 +0000
  I had similar issues when I started going to WTP about a year ago. I know
my way around now but still see place names on Birdline that I can't locate
(e.g. Where is Kirk's Pt?).
  If there isn't a more detailed map available I suggest that I coordinate
the production of an improved map using contributed knowledge from more
experienced WTP-goers.
  I am open to suggestions about how this might be achieved but a simple way
would be for individuals who would like to be involved, contacting me by
email - I would send them a PDF file that I have already put together based
on a composite of Google Maps images. They could then add placenames to this
using whatever program they like (e.g. Preview on a Mac is good), and email
them back to me.
  I¹ll compile everything into a new PDF map and make it available.
  The GoogleMap image background would probably need to be replaced with a
schematic further down the track - though we could check with Google.

  What do people think of this idea?

Best wishes,
Mike Murray

On 8/01/14 4:00 AM, ""
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> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 17:30:32 +1100
> From: "Brian & Meg" <>
> To: <>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] WTP Map
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>   Yesterday, My wife and I went to Melbourne Water, filled in the paperwork,
> paid our money and got our key. We were also given a basic map of the WTP,
> dated Sept 2010. Off we went for our first birding experience out there,
> hoping to also find the reported Long-toed Stint (we had attended the Open Day
> tour in early Oct. last year, so we?d seen the basic plan and the various
> roads, etc.)
>    Our map showed us the various numbered gates so we headed for Gate 2 which
> is towards the end of Pt Wilson Rd. The map showed ?Western Lagoon? and we
> thought finding No. 9 (for the Stint) would be easy. Well, we found 2, 3, 4,
> 5, but no No. 9. The map showed Pond 9 up near Lake Borrie so we headed up
> there thinking that this would be the right place. Obviously, the water there
> was too deep for small waders so we knew that this wasn?t it either. So we
> left via Paradise Rd at Gate 5. There, our luck changed when we met a lovely
> birding couple who were often out here. They didn?t know where western lagoon
> 9 was either but they suggested going into the T-Section Lagoon ? in fact,
> they lead us back to Gate 1 and into that area where they directed us to a
> well known spot for Crake and Rail (which was just brilliant ? great views).
> Here we also saw numbered Lagoons but did not find No 9.
>    My point is that regulars to the WTP obviously know the various lagoons but
> for first-timers like ourselves, it can be difficult. Nevertheless, we had a
> great day seeing so many of the waders and ducks and we left feeling contented
> and looking forward to another day out there in the weeks ahead.
>    Has anyone produced a more detailed map, either on paper or as an app for
> the phone? Can someone please explain exactly where Western Lagoon pond 9 is?
> Surely we are not the only ones who have experienced similar frustration.
> Cheers
> Brian

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