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Do young Channel-bill Cuckoos have a characteristic all? ...and speaking

To: David Adams <>
Subject: Do young Channel-bill Cuckoos have a characteristic all? ...and speaking of begging calls...
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 12:49:16 +1100
It is audible for some distance:-)

> On 28 Nov 2013, at 12:40, David Adams <> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Carl, that's fantastic. Here's the full link for folks:
> 
> http://www.xeno-canto.org/64143
> 
> I'm going to keep my ears out for this sort of sound this year and hope to 
> hear it.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Carl Clifford <> 
>> wrote:
>> David,
>> 
>> CBC chicks do have a begging call, it is a non-stop "waak". I had one in a 
>> Currawong nest across the river from my camp at Woko NP a few years back. 
>> They are very persistant. There is a call of a CBC chick begging on 
>> Xeno-Canto, file number XC64143.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Carl Clifford
>> 
>>> On 28 Nov 2013, at 11:02, David Adams <> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was hearing something the other day and wondering if it was a young
>>> Channel-bill calling. (It wasn't.) It got me to thinking, do they have a
>>> characteristic begging call? Does it vary depending on host? I checked
>>> Morcombe and Pizzey and neither have a recording of the begging. I  also
>>> visited Graeme Chapman's wonderful collection of sounds and pictures. He
>>> recently posted a link to his (fantastic) Channel-bill recordings:
>>> 
>>> http://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/sounds.php?c=88&p=125
>>> 
>>> ...but also no begging. Do they even make such a call? As many times as
>>> I've seen these birds calling and flying around, I haven't ever seen one on
>>> the nest...I've see Koel, but not their big cousins.
>>> 
>>> Speaking of recordings, I was just reminded today that Graeme's collection
>>> is very much worth visiting regularly. He's got very good recordings of
>>> hundreds of Australian birds. It's easy for us to take such recordings for
>>> granted, but they must represent a huge, huge effort...and not many people
>>> seem to be making good recordings. I've tried with some borrowed gear and,
>>> honestly, it's tough. Thinking back, I can remember seeing people making
>>> recordings in the field two or three times, anywhere, ever. I couldn't
>>> count the number of people I've seen with big lenses. (One of the two
>>> people I remember clearly doing recordings was Aussie Susan Myers in Borneo
>>> working on her then upcoming field guide. I had no idea who she was but her
>>> name was so familiar. Through gritted teeth she said "Desperate
>>> Housewives". )
>>> 
>>> Anyway, speaking of begging calls, off the top of my head, I can bring to
>>> mind the sound of young Magpies and plenty of Cockatoo species. The
>>> pleading and then feeding sounds of Cockatoo young sound much more similar
>>> across species to me than the adults. The adults are readily
>>> distinguishable but the young, not so much...for me. I'm in far southern
>>> NSW so I don't have the same mix of species as some of the rest of you.
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