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Do young Channel-bill Cuckoos have a characteristic all? ...and speaking

To: Carl Clifford <>
Subject: Do young Channel-bill Cuckoos have a characteristic all? ...and speaking of begging calls...
From: David Adams <>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 12:40:49 +1100
Thanks Carl, that's fantastic. Here's the full link for folks:

http://www.xeno-canto.org/64143

I'm going to keep my ears out for this sort of sound this year and hope to
hear it.



On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Carl Clifford <>wrote:

> David,
>
> CBC chicks do have a begging call, it is a non-stop "waak". I had one in a
> Currawong nest across the river from my camp at Woko NP a few years back.
> They are very persistant. There is a call of a CBC chick begging on
> Xeno-Canto, file number XC64143.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Clifford
>
> On 28 Nov 2013, at 11:02, David Adams <> wrote:
>
> I was hearing something the other day and wondering if it was a young
> Channel-bill calling. (It wasn't.) It got me to thinking, do they have a
> characteristic begging call? Does it vary depending on host? I checked
> Morcombe and Pizzey and neither have a recording of the begging. I  also
> visited Graeme Chapman's wonderful collection of sounds and pictures. He
> recently posted a link to his (fantastic) Channel-bill recordings:
>
> http://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/sounds.php?c=88&p=125
>
> ...but also no begging. Do they even make such a call? As many times as
> I've seen these birds calling and flying around, I haven't ever seen one on
> the nest...I've see Koel, but not their big cousins.
>
> Speaking of recordings, I was just reminded today that Graeme's collection
> is very much worth visiting regularly. He's got very good recordings of
> hundreds of Australian birds. It's easy for us to take such recordings for
> granted, but they must represent a huge, huge effort...and not many people
> seem to be making good recordings. I've tried with some borrowed gear and,
> honestly, it's tough. Thinking back, I can remember seeing people making
> recordings in the field two or three times, anywhere, ever. I couldn't
> count the number of people I've seen with big lenses. (One of the two
> people I remember clearly doing recordings was Aussie Susan Myers in Borneo
> working on her then upcoming field guide. I had no idea who she was but her
> name was so familiar. Through gritted teeth she said "Desperate
> Housewives". )
>
> Anyway, speaking of begging calls, off the top of my head, I can bring to
> mind the sound of young Magpies and plenty of Cockatoo species. The
> pleading and then feeding sounds of Cockatoo young sound much more similar
> across species to me than the adults. The adults are readily
> distinguishable but the young, not so much...for me. I'm in far southern
> NSW so I don't have the same mix of species as some of the rest of you.
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