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Do young Channel-bill Cuckoos have a characteristic all? ...and speaking

To: David Adams <>
Subject: Do young Channel-bill Cuckoos have a characteristic all? ...and speaking of begging calls...
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 11:55:25 +1100
David,

CBC chicks do have a begging call, it is a non-stop "waak". I had one in a 
Currawong nest across the river from my camp at Woko NP a few years back. They 
are very persistant. There is a call of a CBC chick begging on Xeno-Canto, file 
number XC64143.

Cheers,

Carl Clifford

> On 28 Nov 2013, at 11:02, David Adams <> wrote:
> 
> I was hearing something the other day and wondering if it was a young
> Channel-bill calling. (It wasn't.) It got me to thinking, do they have a
> characteristic begging call? Does it vary depending on host? I checked
> Morcombe and Pizzey and neither have a recording of the begging. I  also
> visited Graeme Chapman's wonderful collection of sounds and pictures. He
> recently posted a link to his (fantastic) Channel-bill recordings:
> 
> http://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/sounds.php?c=88&p=125
> 
> ...but also no begging. Do they even make such a call? As many times as
> I've seen these birds calling and flying around, I haven't ever seen one on
> the nest...I've see Koel, but not their big cousins.
> 
> Speaking of recordings, I was just reminded today that Graeme's collection
> is very much worth visiting regularly. He's got very good recordings of
> hundreds of Australian birds. It's easy for us to take such recordings for
> granted, but they must represent a huge, huge effort...and not many people
> seem to be making good recordings. I've tried with some borrowed gear and,
> honestly, it's tough. Thinking back, I can remember seeing people making
> recordings in the field two or three times, anywhere, ever. I couldn't
> count the number of people I've seen with big lenses. (One of the two
> people I remember clearly doing recordings was Aussie Susan Myers in Borneo
> working on her then upcoming field guide. I had no idea who she was but her
> name was so familiar. Through gritted teeth she said "Desperate
> Housewives". )
> 
> Anyway, speaking of begging calls, off the top of my head, I can bring to
> mind the sound of young Magpies and plenty of Cockatoo species. The
> pleading and then feeding sounds of Cockatoo young sound much more similar
> across species to me than the adults. The adults are readily
> distinguishable but the young, not so much...for me. I'm in far southern
> NSW so I don't have the same mix of species as some of the rest of you.
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