Mystery Call from Royal NP, Sydney

To: Allan Richardson <>
Subject: Mystery Call from Royal NP, Sydney
From: Marc Anderson <>
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:31:52 +1000
We do get Scarlet Robins there occasionally in autumn, so that is a possibility.

The grassy understorey is a bit unusual and perhaps a result of both the severe fires in the 90's and the Rusa Deer population which I imagine nibble the life out of most of the understorey plants.

On 25/08/2013 12:28, Allan Richardson wrote:
I agree Marc - if you have a grassy under-storey that would rule out L-b Scrubwren and I think Tom would agree, I think were were thinking that it was wet sclerophyll, which isn't usually grassy.

Grassy forest could suggest Scarlet Robin perhaps (that first section of the call is a little like what they produce), but I'm guessing they're not usually found in Royal NP???

It's amazing how many little small contact type calls birds make that are outside our most usually heard suite - that final trill does sound like it could come from a robin.


On 25/08/2013, at 12:20 PM, Marc Anderson wrote:

Tom & Allan,

Thanks for your input in so far.

Large-billed Scrubwren is certainly found in the area, although not usual at this particular site as it is higher up on a ridge on the understorey is quite grassy. They are common in the rainforest gullies a few hundred metres away though.

White-browed Scrubwren are common at the site, but that final trill is really what throws me and doesn't sound scrubwren-like to me.

Without seeing the bird I think our only hope is as you mentioned, someone who has heard & identified this call before. 



On 25/08/2013 10:57, Tom Tarrant wrote:
Interesting call, I've been hearing something similar in SE Qld and wonder if it's Large-billed Scrubwren (is that a possibility in your area?)


On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Marc Anderson <m("","marc");" target="_blank">> wrote:
Hi all,

I discovered this call on a recording I made in early March this year in the Royal National Park, NSW.

Rose Robin's were in the area and heard soon after this call ( here is the Rose Robin call for comparison - ), so it could possibly be an atypical Rose Robin call. However, I've never heard anything like this one before.

Would be interested to hear your thoughts!


Marc Anderson


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