Hi all,
I fully agree with you Stuart...
Furthermore, any monies generated by on-sale of John's precious recordings
should surely therefore be his to enjoy...
By copying these for public use, then any income John is deserved will be
diminished.
A sighting is one thing - but to get a sighting, photos, videos & vocalisations
of this species is truly a great find - & we shoud not forget that these are
John's find's, no-one elses...
Cheers,
Martin Cachard
Cairns
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> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 16:18:16 +0800
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> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Why the Night Parrot call recording SHOULD be made
> freely available
>
> Hi Mick, Mike, Bruce and others in the yes camp
>
> John Young has produced the find of the century. His name is indelibly etched
> into Australia's ornithological history.
>
> He has discovered an immensely important tool for the conservation of this
> species. It will enable government and private conservation agencies,
> ornithologists, environmental consultants and other parties interested in
> saving the species to finally determine presence, monitor and, importantly,
> manage impacts to the parrot.
>
> In the absence of this, those impacts continue unabated.
>
> He should be lauded for the incredible personal investment he's made in
> achieving this.
>
>
>
> On 05/07/2013, at 15:19, Mick Roderick <> wrote:
>
> > I totally agree with Mick,
> >
> > Every birder knows that calls are the key to cryptic species, and it comes
> > as no surprise that this was the case with the Night Parrot. I just don't
> > know what people think is going to happen if/when the call is released.
> > Imagine it - you have the call of the Night Parrot on your phone, CD,
> > cassette, whatever - then what?? You're still basically back at square one
> > as far as locating birds is concerned.
> >
> > I challenge everyone who has the call of the Regent Honeyeater to go out
> > and find one!
> >
> > Mick
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Michael Todd <>
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, 5 July 2013 2:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Why the Night Parrot call recording should not
> > be made freely available.
> >
> >
> > Hello Bob (and everyone else),
> >
> > I've read all the transcripts and I would say that there are good
> > conservation reasons for releasing the call publicly. As long as the
> > location of these particular parrots at the moment is kept under wraps, the
> > calls being played elsewhere won't harm them, especially given a low
> > likelihood of actual success. Maybe other locations can be located. So
> > little is known about Night Parrots that the more locations they can be
> > found at the better.
> >
> > Of course those calls have a high commercial value as well and as a
> > consultant, John may want to hold out to see what government is willing to
> > pay. I assume no one was paying for John's fuel costs while travelling all
> > those thousands of kilometres.
> >
> > It sounds as though they respond well to the calls so this would make it an
> > effective technique. One of the problems from a conservation perspective is
> > that we don't know how long the parrots will stay in this area. If they are
> > nomadic they could eventually leave- maybe never to return, when
> > environmental conditions change. It is essential that the biologists
> > involved (the Night Parrot network people I assume) collect as much
> > information as possible while they can. Others excited about Night Parrots
> > could look elsewhere armed with the call, and hopefully some basic habitat
> > information so that they know where to look. Australia is a big place-
> > there are plenty of places that could be searched.
> >
> > I'm looking forward to hearing and seeing more about the night parrot in
> > the future, like everyone else.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Mick
> >
> > --
> > Michael Todd, PhD
> > Molesworth, Tasmania
> > http://wildlifing.smugmug.com/
> > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-todd/2b/425/605
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