Night Parrot & John Young

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Subject: Night Parrot & John Young
From: "Greg Roberts" <>
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 10:59:52 +1000
It is a pity that the well-deserved accolades being heaped on John Young for
his Night Parrot discovery are tempered by the sort of reference we see here
from Geoff.


For the record, there were sound reasons for raising serious doubts about
some of John's previous pronouncements, most notably his claim to have
discovered a new species of fig-parrot. I won't go over old ground but those
reasons are detailed here:  I invite anyone with
a dispassionate interest in that affair to carefully consider the facts. I
raise this matter now only because Geoff, Lloyd and others have done so in a
derogatory way. 


It is not a case of "eating humble pie". I and other critics have always
admired John's considerable expertise in the field and I made that point at
the time. John Young is a bushman and birder par excellence and that has
never been in doubt in my view. What was always a puzzle to many of us was
why some of these ploys of times past ever came into play.


I have no doubts about his current Night Parrot record and congratulate him
warmly on his exciting discovery. But be assured that the circumstances
surrounding this discovery are a world away from other matters I have
referred to.  


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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 10:22:42 +1000

From: "Geoff Jones" <>

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Subject: Night Parrot

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Congratulations to John Young Maybe a lot of his detractors will grovel and

eat humble pie now !



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