Hello,
I would like to thank Greg Roberts for writing about the ?elephant in the room?.
Everybody in the Australian birding community has respect for John Young in
regards to his knowledge, his bushcraft and, as his latest sighting and
photography of the Night Parrot demonstrate, his tenacity. I can?t imagine
anyone not wanting to congratulate John for this significant discovery.
It is upsetting and irrational for some birding-aus members, however to use
John?s latest discovery as an opportunity to denigrate well intentioned and
reasoned critics of some of John Young?s prior behaviour and claims. This ?suck
eggs? [excuse the avian pun] attitude, demonstrated below, is not helpful.
?Congratulations to John Young Maybe a lot of his detractors will grovel and
eat humble pie now!?
?he copped a lot of unfair criticism - mostly from jealous people I suspect?
?instead of knocking his efforts (as a small group who had never met the man
unfairly did some years ago)?
That John Young is right now does not mean that he was always correct in the
past or that he will be in the future. And that of course stands for every
single person.
John Young and others should be judged not by simply their claims but by the
evidence that they produce.
Cheers as I begin to barricade myself,
Ken Cross
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From: Greg Roberts <>
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Subject: Night Parrot & John Young
It is a pity that the well-deserved accolades being heaped on John Young for
his Night Parrot discovery are tempered by the sort of reference we see here
from Geoff.
For the record, there were sound reasons for raising serious doubts about
some of John's previous pronouncements, most notably his claim to have
discovered a new species of fig-parrot. I won't go over old ground but those
reasons are detailed here: http://tinyurl.com/nzytmlu. I invite anyone with
a dispassionate interest in that affair to carefully consider the facts. I
raise this matter now only because Geoff, Lloyd and others have done so in a
derogatory way.
It is not a case of "eating humble pie". I and other critics have always
admired John's considerable expertise in the field and I made that point at
the time. John Young is a bushman and birder par excellence and that has
never been in doubt in my view. What was always a puzzle to many of us was
why some of these ploys of times past ever came into play.
I have no doubts about his current Night Parrot record and congratulate him
warmly on his exciting discovery. But be assured that the circumstances
surrounding this discovery are a world away from other matters I have
referred to.
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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 10:22:42 +1000
From: "Geoff Jones" <>
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Subject: Night Parrot
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Congratulations to John Young Maybe a lot of his detractors will grovel and
eat humble pie now !
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