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Duck Shooting in NSW

To: "'Peter Shute'" <>, <>
Subject: Duck Shooting in NSW
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:28:21 +1000
Yes that is obviously what I am suggesting. I wonder if you are asking in a
sarcastic way. It is easy for someone who knows the birds to say that a
species is distinctive. Yes they are. If you care. If you are experienced.
Every duck species has features on which it can be identified. There is
surely a huge range of skills in the shooting fraternity, just as there is
among us. There is the saying "if it looks like a duck and quacks like a
duck it is a duck" and that will be the level of interest to many people. 

Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Shute  
Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013 8:54 AM
To: 'Philip Veerman'; 
Subject: Duck Shooting in NSW


Philip, are you suggesting that shooters might have trouble recognising a
Pink-eared Duck? I would have thought there were few ducks that were so
distinctive. In Victoria at least, shooters have to pass an identification
test.

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of 
> Philip Veerman
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 June 2013 10:31 PM
> To: 
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Duck Shooting in NSW
> 
> All that makes sense but surely the relevant part of the
> reason is to pander to people who do not have the skills or 
> interest to recognise this species (or probably several other 
> ones), so that the system does not get involved in debating 
> whether someone made an identification or shooting error. The 
> bureaucracy would have a hard task prosecuting that, given 
> the likely defence. I would suspect that as the reason rather 
> than what it eats or that it associates with other waterfowl 
> species that do harm crops, which is of course a cop out. 
> Maybe it does not help that it has a name that refers to a 
> feature barely visible at shooting range. 
> 
> Philip
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of
> Chris King
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 June 2013 4:53 PM
> To: Erica Trinder
> Cc: Birding Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Duck Shooting in NSW
> 
> 
>  Hi Erica
> 
> It is dismal. At the risk of being political, below is part
> of an email from the National Parks Association (a not for 
> profit group, not associated with the government National 
> Parks) showing that at least there is some opposition and 
> that other groups care about the pink-eared ducks in NSW!
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> "In the last two years, the NSW government has made a series
> of alarming environmental decisions that seriously threaten 
> the future of our national parks and wildlife. Many of these 
> decisions are based on political deals made with the Shooters 
> and Fishers Party, rather than credible scientific evidence.
> 
>  Nothing illustrates this quite as clearly as the case of the
> Pink-eared
> Duck<http://npansw.us7.list-manage.com/track/click?u=42506f067
3a573cdc6034c9
> ec&id=6808d64a1c&e=30cd68c91f>.
> This beautiful Australian bird has recently been added to the
> list of native game species that can be legally hunted on 
> private land in NSW. According to the Legislation, ducks can 
> only be shot for the purposes of 'sustainable agricultural 
> management', primarily to protect rice crops. However, the 
> scientific literature indicates that the Pink-eared Duck is 
> an insect eater and doesn't consume rice or other crops. In 
> reality the Pink-eared Duck serves as a farmer's friend, 
> preying on insects that are major rice pests.
> If left unharmed this unique little duck could even help 
> reduce pesticide use on these crops.
> 
>  Based on the species feeding habits, the NPA provided
> evidence for a recent private member's Bill calling for 
> Pink-eared Ducks to be removed from the list of native game 
> birds. However, despite clear scientific evidence that the 
> decision to cull this species is fatally flawed, the 
> government will not support the Bill, claiming that the 
> Pink-eared Duck associate with other waterfowl species that 
> do harm crops. So for no other reason than that they "hang 
> out" with the wrong crowd the government has made it legal to 
> shoot this unique native species.
> 
>  We use this example to highlight how bad recent
> environmental decisions have been in NSW and why we fear for 
> the future. If this was not ominous enough a serious new 
> threat is now emerging out of the recent inquiry into the 
> management of public lands, chaired by Shooters and Fishers 
> MLC Robert Brown, whose recommendations include opening 
> national parks to logging, and imposing a moratorium on the 
> creation of new national parks.
> 
>  With the help of our supporters, NPA has been driving a
> successful high profile campaign against hunting in national 
> parks that has helped delay the start of the program. 
> However, as you have just read hunting is no longer the only 
> major threat our parks and environment face and we need to 
> broaden our campaign to tackle these new, emerging dangers.
> 
>   *Please make a donation and help us to protect our national
> parks **and unique species, such as the Pink-eared Duck, for 
> future generations to
> enjoy."*
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Erica Trinder
> <>wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was wondering what people think / feel / know about recreational
> > shooting of NSW waterbirds?
> >
> > When I say recreational shooting, that's what it of course
> is. But it
> > is being politically disguised under the "pest management"
> banner by
> > the O'Farrell government. They're calling it a cull! Yet
> they have now
> > added the pink-eared duck to the hit list. Despite the fact
> they are
> > claiming they are doing this cull for the rice and grain farmers
> > (claiming the birds eat their crops), yet the pink-eared duck eats 
> > insects, not grains.
> >
> > For more on the latest from the O'Farrell government giving in to
> > every desire of the 2 Upper House NSW Shooters MP's, see:
> >
> > 
> http://www.smh.com.au/environment/animals/duck-season-puts-ofarrell-in
> > -crosshairs-20130621-2onxa.html
> >
> > I'm very interested in people's thoughts and comments on this topic.
> >
> > My interest in this is that I care deeply for all animals, and will
> > fight to the death for them. I've been going down to 
> Victoria for many
> > years to protect and rescue our native water birds during
> the annual
> > duck shooting season. However, the state of things in NSW is quite
> > possibly a whole lot worse, as it takes place on private 
> property all
> > year round, where it can't be monitored. I've heard
> terrible stories
> > of as many as 3000 birds being killed (I hate to think how
> many were
> > not killed outright, but seriously
> > wounded) in a single days shooting on a single property. But no one
> > aside from the shooters and farmers really knows exactly 
> what's going
> > on...and they're certainly not telling. I'd appreciate the thoughts
> > and knowledge
> of
> > people in the bird loving community.
> >
> > --
> > Erica Trinder
> > CatRescue Coordinator
> > (m) 0416 741 020
> > (e) 
> > (w) www.catrescue.com.au
> > (f) Like CatRescue NSW on Facebook 
> > <http://www.facebook.com/CatRescueNSW>
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