Duck Shooting in NSW

To: Peter Shute <>
Subject: Duck Shooting in NSW
From: "Valentine, Peter" <>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:53:48 +0000
Your confidence in the test is less than mine Peter. Only 75% success required. 
In other words misidentification is allowed in one in four cases, kind of 
anticipates failures of identification perhaps?


Peter Valentine

On 26/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Peter Shute <>

> Philip, are you suggesting that shooters might have trouble recognising a 
> Pink-eared Duck? I would have thought there were few ducks that were so 
> distinctive. In Victoria at least, shooters have to pass an identification 
> test.
> Peter Shute
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  
>>  On Behalf Of 
>> Philip Veerman
>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 June 2013 10:31 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Duck Shooting in NSW
>> All that makes sense but surely the relevant part of the 
>> reason is to pander to people who do not have the skills or 
>> interest to recognise this species (or probably several other 
>> ones), so that the system does not get involved in debating 
>> whether someone made an identification or shooting error. The 
>> bureaucracy would have a hard task prosecuting that, given 
>> the likely defence. I would suspect that as the reason rather 
>> than what it eats or that it associates with other waterfowl 
>> species that do harm crops, which is of course a cop out. 
>> Maybe it does not help that it has a name that refers to a 
>> feature barely visible at shooting range. 
>> Philip
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 
>>  On Behalf Of 
>> Chris King
>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 June 2013 4:53 PM
>> To: Erica Trinder
>> Cc: Birding Aus
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Duck Shooting in NSW
>> Hi Erica
>> It is dismal. At the risk of being political, below is part 
>> of an email from the National Parks Association (a not for 
>> profit group, not associated with the government National 
>> Parks) showing that at least there is some opposition and 
>> that other groups care about the pink-eared ducks in NSW!
>> Chris
>> "In the last two years, the NSW government has made a series 
>> of alarming environmental decisions that seriously threaten 
>> the future of our national parks and wildlife. Many of these 
>> decisions are based on political deals made with the Shooters 
>> and Fishers Party, rather than credible scientific evidence.
>> Nothing illustrates this quite as clearly as the case of the 
>> Pink-eared
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>> This beautiful Australian bird has recently been added to the 
>> list of native game species that can be legally hunted on 
>> private land in NSW. According to the Legislation, ducks can 
>> only be shot for the purposes of 'sustainable agricultural 
>> management', primarily to protect rice crops. However, the 
>> scientific literature indicates that the Pink-eared Duck is 
>> an insect eater and doesn't consume rice or other crops. In 
>> reality the Pink-eared Duck serves as a farmer's friend, 
>> preying on insects that are major rice pests.
>> If left unharmed this unique little duck could even help 
>> reduce pesticide use on these crops.
>> Based on the species feeding habits, the NPA provided 
>> evidence for a recent private member's Bill calling for 
>> Pink-eared Ducks to be removed from the list of native game 
>> birds. However, despite clear scientific evidence that the 
>> decision to cull this species is fatally flawed, the 
>> government will not support the Bill, claiming that the 
>> Pink-eared Duck associate with other waterfowl species that 
>> do harm crops. So for no other reason than that they "hang 
>> out" with the wrong crowd the government has made it legal to 
>> shoot this unique native species.
>> We use this example to highlight how bad recent 
>> environmental decisions have been in NSW and why we fear for 
>> the future. If this was not ominous enough a serious new 
>> threat is now emerging out of the recent inquiry into the 
>> management of public lands, chaired by Shooters and Fishers 
>> MLC Robert Brown, whose recommendations include opening 
>> national parks to logging, and imposing a moratorium on the 
>> creation of new national parks.
>> With the help of our supporters, NPA has been driving a 
>> successful high profile campaign against hunting in national 
>> parks that has helped delay the start of the program. 
>> However, as you have just read hunting is no longer the only 
>> major threat our parks and environment face and we need to 
>> broaden our campaign to tackle these new, emerging dangers.
>>  *Please make a donation and help us to protect our national 
>> parks **and unique species, such as the Pink-eared Duck, for 
>> future generations to
>> enjoy."*
>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Erica Trinder
>> <>wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I was wondering what people think / feel / know about recreational 
>>> shooting of NSW waterbirds?
>>> When I say recreational shooting, that's what it of course 
>> is. But it 
>>> is being politically disguised under the "pest management" 
>> banner by 
>>> the O'Farrell government. They're calling it a cull! Yet 
>> they have now 
>>> added the pink-eared duck to the hit list. Despite the fact 
>> they are 
>>> claiming they are doing this cull for the rice and grain farmers 
>>> (claiming the birds eat their crops), yet the pink-eared duck eats 
>>> insects, not grains.
>>> For more on the latest from the O'Farrell government giving in to 
>>> every desire of the 2 Upper House NSW Shooters MP's, see:
>>> -crosshairs-20130621-2onxa.html
>>> I'm very interested in people's thoughts and comments on this topic.
>>> My interest in this is that I care deeply for all animals, and will 
>>> fight to the death for them. I've been going down to 
>> Victoria for many 
>>> years to protect and rescue our native water birds during 
>> the annual 
>>> duck shooting season. However, the state of things in NSW is quite 
>>> possibly a whole lot worse, as it takes place on private 
>> property all 
>>> year round, where it can't be monitored. I've heard 
>> terrible stories 
>>> of as many as 3000 birds being killed (I hate to think how 
>> many were 
>>> not killed outright, but seriously
>>> wounded) in a single days shooting on a single property. But no one 
>>> aside from the shooters and farmers really knows exactly 
>> what's going 
>>> on...and they're certainly not telling. I'd appreciate the thoughts 
>>> and knowledge
>> of
>>> people in the bird loving community.
>>> --
>>> Erica Trinder
>>> CatRescue Coordinator
>>> (m) 0416 741 020
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>>> (f) Like CatRescue NSW on Facebook
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