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Some good news in Qld (at the moment!)

To: Ian Reid <>, "" <>
Subject: Some good news in Qld (at the moment!)
From: martin cachard <>
Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 00:21:34 +1030
Yep Ian, I agree TOTALLY !!!

it's a big worry - he has missed the point & it is very worrying that he is our 
NP's Minister with that kind of attitude...
I say kill the cattle, process them, move on...
& please, stop burning the parks...
engage the RSPCA in considering the suffering of ducks & other wildlife 
illegally shot in VIC by weekend hack shooters - how is the suffering of these 
birds, many threatened, less important than starving cattle managed by people??
answer - because starving cattle affect people's hip-pockets (sorry cattle 
farmers!!)...
leave our national parks alone from anything other than very very light cattle 
grazing & get them out of there once fattened, but who can be entrusted to do 
this properly...???
the whole point has been missed by an elected individual, now finding himself 
as custodian to our national parks - this is really what does concern me!! 

Martin Cachard
Cairns


> Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 16:46:00 +0930
> From: 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Some good news in Qld (at the moment!)
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I agree that this is good news, and with others who have followed up 
> regarding the RSPCA's ill-judged contribution.
> 
> But I want to pick up on a comment from Mr Burke that I think gets to 
> the heart of why so few of the general public or politicians "get" 
> conservation (and so relates to my "bad news" lament from yesterday).  
> He is quoted in Rob's email as saying
> 
>   "National parks are put there as a reserve for families to be able to 
> go and enjoy nature - that's what they're for".... "They're there for 
> the purpose of having some parts of our country reserved for people to 
> enjoy nature".
> 
> Notice his emphasis on Nat Parks as being *for people* and about 
> *people's enjoyment* of nature.  There is nothing here that recognises a 
> conservation value of national parks, protecting habitats and 
> biodiversity because they have intrinsic value, and we have a 
> responsibility to be good custodians of that biodiversity.  A 
> consequence of Mr Burke's interpretation is that National Parks are just 
> "resource" that is "consumed by the public".  Under this interpretation 
> if the greater benefit *to people* would come from logging them, grazing 
> them, mining in them or otherwise exploiting them, then it is entirely 
> logical to do so.  The fact that a statement like this is coming from 
> the Federal Minister for the Environment is exasperating.
> 
> Cheers, Ian
> 
> 
> On 16/05/2013 1:04 PM, robert morris wrote:
> > The Federal Government has over-ruled the Qld Government to prevent grazing 
> > in National Parks. One small win? Now I have sympathy for the drought 
> > stricken farmers, but grazing the national parks is just not right!
> >
> > Burke rejects allowing national parks cattle grazing
> > The Queensland Government has accused the Federal Government of stirring up 
> > the biggest animals rights issue in Australia by rejecting its proposal to 
> > allow starving cattle to graze on conservation reserves and national parks.
> > With a third of Queensland now drought-affected, Queensland National Parks 
> > Minister Steve Dickson says he will keep lobbying federal Environment 
> > Minister Tony Burke to change his mind.
> >
> > "What we're here today to do is get starving cattle to eat food rather than 
> > dropping dead in paddocks - they're the options we have - let them die in 
> > the paddock or do something about it," he said.
> >
> > "I'm sure Mr Burke will see the common sense in that."
> >
> > Mr Dickson says the Federal Government risks an animals rights disaster, 
> > with 25,000 animals that may die from starvation.
> >
> > "I don't know why anybody would want to get in the way of stopping cattle 
> > staying alive," he said.
> >
> > "You look at what happened in Indonesia not so long ago - I think everyone 
> > jumped in the air because there was awful things happening over there with 
> > the abattoirs.
> >
> > "That's been resolved - let this not be another crisis, let's do the right 
> > thing, let's pull together and save these cattle's lives."
> >
> > 'Absurb'
> >
> > But Mr Burke says he will not be swayed.
> >
> > "There's $60 million on the table right now for Queensland farmers for 
> > interest-free loans that [Premier] Campbell Newman's refusing to sign up 
> > to," he said.
> >
> > "It is just absurd for them to say that this is the only option, when 
> > everyone else in Australia is able to find options that don't involve 
> > wrecking national parks.
> >
> > "National parks are put there as a reserve for families to be able to go 
> > and enjoy nature - that's what they're for.
> >
> > "They're not farms, they're not rifle ranges, they're not there for the 
> > purposed of massive land clearing.
> >
> > "They're there for the purpose of having some parts of our country reserved 
> > for people to enjoy nature."
> >
> > But RSPCA spokesman Mark Townend says thousands of cattle could starve.
> >
> > "Drought assistance may help but in this situation you can't get to those 
> > cattle," he said.
> >
> > "The only way is to move them down to those national parks."
> >
> > 'Outrageous' opposition
> >
> > Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney says the Queensland Government will proceed with 
> > its plan, saying the opposition to the proposal is "outrageous".
> >
> > He says the Federal Government did provide funding to help purchase some of 
> > the properties, so it is appropriate to seek their cooperation.
> >
> > "We believe this is just such a common sense response to a critical animal 
> > welfare situation that we will proceed in Parliament next week to amend the 
> > legislation," he said.
> >
> > "We don't need anyone's permission to change the state legislation.
> >
> > "It is only the issue of the funding that was made available to buy these 
> > properties - we are not going to be put off."
> > Rob Morris
> >
> >   
> >
> > Brisbane, Australia
> >
> >
> >
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